Adding prop_static for fizzler adds a lot to compile time!
Quote from whupper on December 31, 2007, 7:49 pmI'm creating a fizzler. Anytime I create a prop_static with a world model of portal_cleanser_1.mdl, it adds 26 seconds to my compile time (which is only about 8 seconds).
It looks like it's doing it when it's calculation collisions. Any ideas on what that is?
I'm creating a fizzler. Anytime I create a prop_static with a world model of portal_cleanser_1.mdl, it adds 26 seconds to my compile time (which is only about 8 seconds).
It looks like it's doing it when it's calculation collisions. Any ideas on what that is?
Quote from msleeper on December 31, 2007, 8:57 pmTry adding it as a prop_dynamic.
Try adding it as a prop_dynamic.
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Quote from MrTwoVideoCards on December 31, 2007, 9:39 pmHmm it shouldn't do that really, but yeah a pro_dynamic is even more expensive though Sleeper, and would take longer to render considering it can move, so the engine must be aware of this.
Well 28 Seconds isn't much of a big deal, but for that area of compilation it seems funny.
Hmm it shouldn't do that really, but yeah a pro_dynamic is even more expensive though Sleeper, and would take longer to render considering it can move, so the engine must be aware of this.
Well 28 Seconds isn't much of a big deal, but for that area of compilation it seems funny.
Quote from whupper on December 31, 2007, 10:01 pmYeah, I don't get it. It more than triples my current compile time, which is annoying. I'll try it later in a new map to see if that makes a difference.
Incidentally, I did try it as a prop_dynamic. The compile is fast as usual, but at runtime they don't appear! The fizzler is just in the air by itself.
Yeah, I don't get it. It more than triples my current compile time, which is annoying. I'll try it later in a new map to see if that makes a difference.
Incidentally, I did try it as a prop_dynamic. The compile is fast as usual, but at runtime they don't appear! The fizzler is just in the air by itself.
Quote from whupper on January 1, 2008, 2:10 amYep, even with a brand new empty map, it still happens. My map compiles in less than one second (I'm not doing vrad). If I simply add a prop_static with a world model of portal_cleanser_1.mdl, it balloons to 14 seconds.
What could it be?
Incidentally, I've moved my map to another PC and now during compile it says the following error when I create a prop_static for portal_cleanser_1.mdl:
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Error loading studio model ""!
So WTF is going on! Any help?
Yep, even with a brand new empty map, it still happens. My map compiles in less than one second (I'm not doing vrad). If I simply add a prop_static with a world model of portal_cleanser_1.mdl, it balloons to 14 seconds.
What could it be?
Incidentally, I've moved my map to another PC and now during compile it says the following error when I create a prop_static for portal_cleanser_1.mdl:
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Error loading studio model ""!
So WTF is going on! Any help?
Quote from whupper on January 1, 2008, 4:37 amI figured out why the portal cleanser posts were disappearing in the game. Because when they are set to prop_dynamic, the portal cleanser trigger is destroying them immediately since the Everything flag is checked.
The error went away apparently randomly after a couple restarts.
So they only mystery left is why adding them as prop_static triples my compile time?
I figured out why the portal cleanser posts were disappearing in the game. Because when they are set to prop_dynamic, the portal cleanser trigger is destroying them immediately since the Everything flag is checked.
The error went away apparently randomly after a couple restarts.
So they only mystery left is why adding them as prop_static triples my compile time?
Quote from MrTwoVideoCards on January 1, 2008, 6:12 amMainly because there solid, and dont move, but still, it shouldn't add much of a time frame to it, unless there within multiple leafs or something.
Mainly because there solid, and dont move, but still, it shouldn't add much of a time frame to it, unless there within multiple leafs or something.
Quote from msleeper on January 1, 2008, 12:56 pmwhupper - @ the fizzler destroying the model
As for why the prop_static is taking longer to compile, i have no clue, that really doesn't make any sense. Which program (vbsp, vvis, or vrad) is giving you the additional compile time? That could help figure out why it's doing it.
whupper - @ the fizzler destroying the model
As for why the prop_static is taking longer to compile, i have no clue, that really doesn't make any sense. Which program (vbsp, vvis, or vrad) is giving you the additional compile time? That could help figure out why it's doing it.
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Quote from whupper on January 1, 2008, 1:36 pmYeah, I changed the player start to begin in front of the fizzler, and it was funny to see the cleansers float away and turn black, like the cube does! At least it solved that mystery of why the prop_dymanics were disappearing. I guess it's pretty obvious in retrospect.
The extra compile time is happening during vbsp. It gets to these lines really quickly:
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Building Physics collision data...
done (1) (106651 bytes)So that's fine. But then it takes it's long time to think, which, when it's done, outputs this:
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Placing detail props : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Compacting texture/material tables...
Reduced 478 texinfos to 191
Reduced 65 texdatas to 52 (2795 bytes to 2374)
Writing e:binsteamsteamappsblah@blah.comsourcesdk_contentportalmapsrcd03o.bsp
26 seconds elapsedDoes that mean anything?
Yeah, I changed the player start to begin in front of the fizzler, and it was funny to see the cleansers float away and turn black, like the cube does! At least it solved that mystery of why the prop_dymanics were disappearing. I guess it's pretty obvious in retrospect.
The extra compile time is happening during vbsp. It gets to these lines really quickly:
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Building Physics collision data...
done (1) (106651 bytes)
So that's fine. But then it takes it's long time to think, which, when it's done, outputs this:
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Placing detail props : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Compacting texture/material tables...
Reduced 478 texinfos to 191
Reduced 65 texdatas to 52 (2795 bytes to 2374)
Writing e:binsteamsteamappsblah@blah.comsourcesdk_contentportalmapsrcd03o.bsp
26 seconds elapsed
Does that mean anything?
Quote from msleeper on January 1, 2008, 2:00 pmAre the prop_statics sticking deep into walls? Try placing them kind of floating in mid-air just to test and see how that compiles.
Load up your map in glview and see what the area looks like there. I wonder if something weird is happening and vbsp is cutting it up strangely because of the prop, or maybe the clipping hull is getting mucked up.
Are the prop_statics sticking deep into walls? Try placing them kind of floating in mid-air just to test and see how that compiles.
Load up your map in glview and see what the area looks like there. I wonder if something weird is happening and vbsp is cutting it up strangely because of the prop, or maybe the clipping hull is getting mucked up.
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