Quote from josepezdj on January 16, 2013, 11:04 am

Hi, and welcome to the forums.

First of all, check if you have these 3 instances in your map:

- Arrival elevator
- Departure elevator
- Arrival_departure_transition_ents (I think this was the name... )

That third instance is located into sdk_content/instances/transitions

Other possibility is that you forgot to erase from inside your map the entity info_player_start (the elevators already have this entity in)

EDIT

joatoche wrote:

OFFTOPIC: I don't know why that signature that says "i don't know what is brush but herd it alot" is there, i didn't written it! And i can't remove it!

That is not your signature (check mine below this post... down there is its position ), that is only a kind of rank... it says so because of the few posts you have posted so far...

Quote from joatoche on January 16, 2013, 11:21 am

josepezdj wrote:

Hi, and welcome to the forums.

First of all, check if you have these 3 instances in your map:

- Arrival elevator
- Departure elevator
- Arrival_departure_transition_ents (I think this was the name... )

That third instance is located into sdk_content/instances/transitions

Other possibility is that you forgot to erase from inside your map the entity info_player_start (the elevators already have this entity in)

EDIT

joatoche wrote:

OFFTOPIC: I don't know why that signature that says "i don't know what is brush but herd it alot" is there, i didn't written it! And i can't remove it!

That is not your signature (check mine below this post... down there is its position ), that is only a kind of rank... it says so because of the few posts you have posted so far...

The problem is: That i want that elevator to go to the next map! And the arrival_departure_ents gives me a portalgun at the start of the map and i don't want that becouse i should pick it up on that map but not on startup.

EDIT: On the first map i DONT come from an elevator, i appear falling from a diversity tube and i fall into a testing track, where i acquire the portalgun. So the problem is not that entity, becouse is not needed for what im doing. My problem is that the game does not recognize my map on the elevator_motifs, and that prevents the elevator from working.

Quote from josepezdj on January 16, 2013, 11:33 am

That's a complete different thing than the one I could extract from your first post

To get rid of the portalgun, use a trigger_weapon_strip brush entity in your level and set its property "Kill Weapons" to YES.

In order to make this happen smooth and not weirdly, I'd suggest you to edit the arrival_elevator instance and place this entity there so the player triggers it right in the moment that he appears in the elevator model (where he gets his weapon in the first place)

Quote from joatoche on January 16, 2013, 11:49 am

josepezdj wrote:

That's a complete different thing than the one I could extract from your first post

To get rid of the portalgun, use a trigger_weapon_strip brush entity in your level and set its property "Kill Weapons" to YES.

In order to make this happen smooth and not weirdly, I'd suggest you to edit the arrival_elevator instance and place this entity there so the player triggers it right in the moment that he appears in the elevator model (where he gets his weapon in the first place)

And how i fix the "Level not found in elevator motifs"

EDIT: Don't care about the screen or the portalgun, it goes away when i remove the transition ents, and i get rid of the screen with a custom entity .

EDIT: Nope, when i remove entities my elevator doesn't work anymore. I will do a little more editing.

EDIT: It works. I only have to get the departure elevator working...

Quote from FelixGriffin on January 16, 2013, 5:27 pm

Try using the wonderful Hardcoded Elevator Instances, which you can download here: http://forums.thinking.withportals.com/downloads.php?view=detail&df_id=2071. Swap out your base and logic instances with these and see if it helps.

Quote from ChickenMobile on January 16, 2013, 8:00 pm

FelixGriffin wrote:

Try using the wonderful Hardcoded Elevator Instances, which you can download here: http://forums.thinking.withportals.com/downloads.php?view=detail&df_id=2071. Swap out your base and logic instances with these and see if it helps.

If you are having trouble making the default instances work, save them and edit them to your liking. In one thread I suggested to someone to remove Valve's script so the portalgun didn't spawn and then they could make their own transition script without any problem. I wouldn't go much into scripting as the workshop is where everyone plays your maps - and we all know that you click to go to the next map through the voting dialogue screen.

The main reason why Valve made a script is because they order the maps in any order without having to recompile the maps and it could decide when you will get what portalgun.

If you are interested, you can have my custom instances with a script I made for a mod (with some comments attached so you know what part does what). But probably the easiest thing to do is remove the transition script altogether and just use a trigger_changelevel or point_changelevel with a trigger at the bottom of the elevator shaft which changes the level to your next wanted one. OnStartTouch -> point_changelevel -> ChangeLevel -> [Map Name]

What Valve does and what's broken
[spoiler]

1. All data inside the most recent DLC will override any other data in any other folder. This means you could create a Portal2_DLC3+ folder and it would override any items.
2. Since the update of the Workshop, the elevator videos will always change to a random video unless your map is located in Valve's transition script sp_transition_list.
   1. You can fix this by using a custom elevator video hardcoded screen, or by reverting the original script inside the portal2/scripts/videos/video_splitter.nut
   2. A custom video_splitter and transition will also do the trick
3. sp_transition_list:
   1. Decides what map follows what map when you finish the map
   2. Decides what map is the start of a chapter and displays the title accordingly (game_text). If the title is not triggered on player spawn, it will trigger through an output in the map.
   3. If the map is found in transition list, it will teleport the player to the point_teleport named @arrival_teleport located on the start elevator or @elevator_entry_teleport. Meaning you can teleport the player to the elevator without an info_player_start.
   4. Decides what map you are up to in the series to give you what portalgun.
      1. There is a loop which cycles through each of the map and once part a certain map, will give the portalgun, then upgrades it, then gives you the potatogun.
      2. Because of this cycle, it will always give you the potatogun if the map is not in the current list.

         Code: Select all

            foreach (index, map in MapPlayOrder)
   {
      if (MapPlayOrder[index] == FIRST_MAP_WITH_GUN)
      {
         portalGunCommand = "give_portalgun"
      }      
      else if (MapPlayOrder[index] == FIRST_MAP_WITH_UPGRADE_GUN)
      {
         portalGunSecondCommand = "upgrade_portalgun"
      }
      else if (MapPlayOrder[index] == FIRST_MAP_WITH_POTATO_GUN)
      {
         portalGunSecondCommand = "upgrade_potatogun"
      }
      //Leave the loop, we found the map
      if (GetMapName() == MapPlayOrder[index])
      {
         break
      }
   }

      3. All of these commands when put into the console are not cheat commands unless you are in multiplayer.
4. If you are to place your map on the workshop with a transition, make sure to note:
   1. That placing Valve's instances with the voting dialogue instance will also play the random Cave Johnson line on startup. The only entity needed to start up the voting dialogue is a path_track named @vote.
      voting.vmf
   2. That if you are to use a transition, it will skip the thumbs up voting dialogue for your map. Therefore it would be better to keep your maps in in a collection and allow people to subscribe to them all (and hopefully play them in order).

[/spoiler]
If I'm missing anything here that you would like to know about, give me a buzz.

Quote from joatoche on January 17, 2013, 10:59 am

ChickenMobile wrote:

FelixGriffin wrote:

Try using the wonderful Hardcoded Elevator Instances, which you can download here: http://forums.thinking.withportals.com/downloads.php?view=detail&df_id=2071. Swap out your base and logic instances with these and see if it helps.

If you are having trouble making the default instances work, save them and edit them to your liking. In one thread I suggested to someone to remove Valve's script so the portalgun didn't spawn and then they could make their own transition script without any problem. I wouldn't go much into scripting as the workshop is where everyone plays your maps - and we all know that you click to go to the next map through the voting dialogue screen.

The main reason why Valve made a script is because they order the maps in any order without having to recompile the maps and it could decide when you will get what portalgun.

If you are interested, you can have my custom instances with a script I made for a mod (with some comments attached so you know what part does what). But probably the easiest thing to do is remove the transition script altogether and just use a trigger_changelevel or point_changelevel with a trigger at the bottom of the elevator shaft which changes the level to your next wanted one. OnStartTouch -> point_changelevel -> ChangeLevel -> [Map Name]

What Valve does and what's broken
[spoiler]

1. All data inside the most recent DLC will override any other data in any other folder. This means you could create a Portal2_DLC3+ folder and it would override any items.
2. Since the update of the Workshop, the elevator videos will always change to a random video unless your map is located in Valve's transition script sp_transition_list.
   1. You can fix this by using a custom elevator video hardcoded screen, or by reverting the original script inside the portal2/scripts/videos/video_splitter.nut
   2. A custom video_splitter and transition will also do the trick
3. sp_transition_list:
   1. Decides what map follows what map when you finish the map
   2. Decides what map is the start of a chapter and displays the title accordingly (game_text). If the title is not triggered on player spawn, it will trigger through an output in the map.
   3. If the map is found in transition list, it will teleport the player to the point_teleport named @arrival_teleport located on the start elevator or @elevator_entry_teleport. Meaning you can teleport the player to the elevator without an info_player_start.
   4. Decides what map you are up to in the series to give you what portalgun.
      1. There is a loop which cycles through each of the map and once part a certain map, will give the portalgun, then upgrades it, then gives you the potatogun.
      2. Because of this cycle, it will always give you the potatogun if the map is not in the current list.

         Code: Select all

            foreach (index, map in MapPlayOrder)
   {
      if (MapPlayOrder[index] == FIRST_MAP_WITH_GUN)
      {
         portalGunCommand = "give_portalgun"
      }      
      else if (MapPlayOrder[index] == FIRST_MAP_WITH_UPGRADE_GUN)
      {
         portalGunSecondCommand = "upgrade_portalgun"
      }
      else if (MapPlayOrder[index] == FIRST_MAP_WITH_POTATO_GUN)
      {
         portalGunSecondCommand = "upgrade_potatogun"
      }
      //Leave the loop, we found the map
      if (GetMapName() == MapPlayOrder[index])
      {
         break
      }
   }

      3. All of these commands when put into the console are not cheat commands unless you are in multiplayer.
4. If you are to place your map on the workshop with a transition, make sure to note:
   1. That placing Valve's instances with the voting dialogue instance will also play the random Cave Johnson line on startup. The only entity needed to start up the voting dialogue is a path_track named @vote.
      voting.vmf
   2. That if you are to use a transition, it will skip the thumbs up voting dialogue for your map. Therefore it would be better to keep your maps in in a collection and allow people to subscribe to them all (and hopefully play them in order).

[/spoiler]
If I'm missing anything here that you would like to know about, give me a buzz.

Well, i was thinking of distributing my map as a map pack and not inside the Workshop but just figured that i could get more public in the Workshop. Well, if i do use the "hardcoded" instance, it will work properly with the Workshop?

Quote from joatoche on January 17, 2013, 1:01 pm

Bump

Quote from Brainstone on January 17, 2013, 1:17 pm

Yes, I'm pretty sure they will work with the workshop, if VALVE has not changed something again.