Quote from
msleeper on May 25, 2009, 4:07 am
I'm locking this stupid, stupid thread. There is too much misinformation going around, mostly because portalplayer doesn't know what he's talking about.
kizzycocoa wrote:
I must ask, was it really necessary to insult the guy? as a moderator, I'd expect you to not insult them. unless your purpose is to drive people away and make this site die faster
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on a side note, logically, the source code is on all of our computers.
I mean, surely the compiled code is used for the actual game?
so, logically, if someone were clever enough, they could try to decompile the game to get the source code? 
idk. I don't know anything to do with the technical side of things 
When someone doesn't know what they're talking about, and they continue to refuse to listen to people who do know what they are talking about, then yeah, they're being stubborn and retarded and deserve to be insulted. We're trying to help this guy but he doesn't want our help. Instead he wants to go on and on and on about being "optimistic" and hoping that maybe he'll be a real life mod just like Pinnochio, but the bottom line is that he can't and won't. He just doesn't want to listen because he doesn't want to face the music. Well, the music's here, take a listen.
Also, if you don't know what you're talking about, don't make irrational conjectures. There's nothing "logical" about assuming the source code is on your computer just because you own Portal. In fact nothing could be farther from the truth. I own Windows, does that mean I own the source code to it? No. You should read up on how programming and code compilation works before you just guess at it.
p0rtalplayer wrote:
Sure, multiplayer has never worked in the past. Sure, coding new weapons for portal has never worked in the past. Sure, this may just be a giant mappack. But let's look at it the
OPTIMISTIC way.
Well, we don't know if it works or not, it's still WIP.
This WILL be possible if we get steamworks.
Multiplayer has never worked in the past, because it won't work ever. Nothing has changed between "the past" and now, the client networking code hasn't been touched since the day of release. It can't happen and it won't happen. Period, end of story.
Coding new weapons has never worked in the past, because it's impossible to do so. You need the game's source code to do that, and you or anyone won't ever get that any time soon, if ever at all. Period, end of story.
You won't get added to Steamworks, because you're not a mod. You're a map pack. Period, end of story.
It's cute that you really want to make your map pack and that you think - and that's all, you think - you can make these changes like multiplayer and coop and new weapons and so on, but you can't. You can't because it's not possible. It's not a matter of being optimistic or what the fuck ever, it's because we do not have the source to Portal, and without it there is nothing that can be done. Trust me, if it was possible to add coop or other things to Portal, people would have done it a long, long time ago. People way smarter than you, and way smarter than me.
But it's not possible. Accept the fact that you, as PortalFan said, are nothing more than the other "mods" like Prelude, Chell's legend, and Project Beta are - which is a map pack.
Period, end of story.
I'm locking this stupid, stupid thread. There is too much misinformation going around, mostly because portalplayer doesn't know what he's talking about.
kizzycocoa wrote:
I must ask, was it really necessary to insult the guy? as a moderator, I'd expect you to not insult them. unless your purpose is to drive people away and make this site die faster
[. . .]
on a side note, logically, the source code is on all of our computers.
I mean, surely the compiled code is used for the actual game?
so, logically, if someone were clever enough, they could try to decompile the game to get the source code?
idk. I don't know anything to do with the technical side of things
When someone doesn't know what they're talking about, and they continue to refuse to listen to people who do know what they are talking about, then yeah, they're being stubborn and retarded and deserve to be insulted. We're trying to help this guy but he doesn't want our help. Instead he wants to go on and on and on about being "optimistic" and hoping that maybe he'll be a real life mod just like Pinnochio, but the bottom line is that he can't and won't. He just doesn't want to listen because he doesn't want to face the music. Well, the music's here, take a listen.
Also, if you don't know what you're talking about, don't make irrational conjectures. There's nothing "logical" about assuming the source code is on your computer just because you own Portal. In fact nothing could be farther from the truth. I own Windows, does that mean I own the source code to it? No. You should read up on how programming and code compilation works before you just guess at it.
p0rtalplayer wrote:
Sure, multiplayer has never worked in the past. Sure, coding new weapons for portal has never worked in the past. Sure, this may just be a giant mappack. But let's look at it the
OPTIMISTIC way.
Well, we don't know if it works or not, it's still WIP.
This WILL be possible if we get steamworks.
Multiplayer has never worked in the past, because it won't work ever. Nothing has changed between "the past" and now, the client networking code hasn't been touched since the day of release. It can't happen and it won't happen. Period, end of story.
Coding new weapons has never worked in the past, because it's impossible to do so. You need the game's source code to do that, and you or anyone won't ever get that any time soon, if ever at all. Period, end of story.
You won't get added to Steamworks, because you're not a mod. You're a map pack. Period, end of story.
It's cute that you really want to make your map pack and that you think - and that's all, you think - you can make these changes like multiplayer and coop and new weapons and so on, but you can't. You can't because it's not possible. It's not a matter of being optimistic or what the fuck ever, it's because we do not have the source to Portal, and without it there is nothing that can be done. Trust me, if it was possible to add coop or other things to Portal, people would have done it a long, long time ago. People way smarter than you, and way smarter than me.
But it's not possible. Accept the fact that you, as PortalFan said, are nothing more than the other "mods" like Prelude, Chell's legend, and Project Beta are - which is a map pack.
Period, end of story.
