Portal Surfing?
Quote from Dood77 on April 3, 2008, 6:16 pmHas anyone ever considered the idea of surfing in portal? (Like CS:S surf maps) A bunch of CS:S and TF2 players hate surfing and think its retarded and ruins the game, etc. but in portal where it's single player I think it could be fun combined with the portal dynamic... Anyway I googled on the subject to no end and found nothing, so I decided to have a go at it.
Since I know little to nothing about mapping, I decompiled a surf map I had lying around that was modified for TF2 and deleted the team spawns and placed a player spawn and a portal gun. I then had to use SourceMod to change sv_airaccelerate to 100, since it's not accessible by normal means in any of the orange box games.It didn't work. I could ride down a ramp okay, its just that the physics having to do with friction and air control are way different, so I couldn't change my direction on a ramp, or fly through the air very well.
So, does anyone who knows more about the physics differences in portal have any ideas? Like maybe some other cvars that could be altered? I messed around with sv_accelerate a little, but that didn't help either.
I'll upload my converted map and post it here once it's done.
EDIT: Here it is, I screwed up where I put the player start so you have to noclip it in the beginning: http://forums.thinking.withportals.com/dload.php?action=file&file_id=193
Has anyone ever considered the idea of surfing in portal? (Like CS:S surf maps) A bunch of CS:S and TF2 players hate surfing and think its retarded and ruins the game, etc. but in portal where it's single player I think it could be fun combined with the portal dynamic... Anyway I googled on the subject to no end and found nothing, so I decided to have a go at it.
Since I know little to nothing about mapping, I decompiled a surf map I had lying around that was modified for TF2 and deleted the team spawns and placed a player spawn and a portal gun. I then had to use SourceMod to change sv_airaccelerate to 100, since it's not accessible by normal means in any of the orange box games.
It didn't work. I could ride down a ramp okay, its just that the physics having to do with friction and air control are way different, so I couldn't change my direction on a ramp, or fly through the air very well.
So, does anyone who knows more about the physics differences in portal have any ideas? Like maybe some other cvars that could be altered? I messed around with sv_accelerate a little, but that didn't help either.
I'll upload my converted map and post it here once it's done.
EDIT: Here it is, I screwed up where I put the player start so you have to noclip it in the beginning: http://forums.thinking.withportals.com/dload.php?action=file&file_id=193
Quote from msleeper on April 3, 2008, 6:26 pmSurfing is retarded.
Surfing is retarded.
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Quote from Hober on April 3, 2008, 6:27 pmDood77 wrote:Has anyone ever considered the idea of surfing in portal?Search next time.
Search next time.
Quote from youme on April 3, 2008, 6:27 pm
We've already discussed portal surfing and come to the above conclusion....use the search button next time (or stay on CS:S)
We've already discussed portal surfing and come to the above conclusion....use the search button next time (or stay on CS:S)
Quote from Dood77 on April 3, 2008, 6:54 pmI admit I didn't expect such a hostile attitude toward surfing.
Sorry about not finding that old thread, like I said I googled it, but I guess I should've done the forum search; I guess I thought since I found nothing on google, there wouldn't be anything here. Plus, that forum is locked, and you might notice my post had more to it than: "It would be pretty cool if some 1 made a surf map in portal ^^"
Regardless of people's opinions on surf maps or surfing itself I just wanted to know if any maps existed, and if my problem could be solved. It seems the only matter "settled" was that the important people here don't care for surfing, and so surfing maps won't be bothered with. It's not like the map would be only surfing and no portaling, but what I had in mind was a unique puzzle that required surfing to gain momentum, etc.
Mapster wrote:If a Singleplayer map had a few of these, then but is not dedicated to them then then it can be ok, as long as they are not over used.It seems to me, that the other forum got locked because all people were doing is expressing their hate of surfing and surf maps and others accusing them of saying surfing is easy, etc.
I'm not hoping for a moral victory or flame war so please don't start one.
I admit I didn't expect such a hostile attitude toward surfing.
Sorry about not finding that old thread, like I said I googled it, but I guess I should've done the forum search; I guess I thought since I found nothing on google, there wouldn't be anything here. Plus, that forum is locked, and you might notice my post had more to it than: "It would be pretty cool if some 1 made a surf map in portal ^^"
Regardless of people's opinions on surf maps or surfing itself I just wanted to know if any maps existed, and if my problem could be solved. It seems the only matter "settled" was that the important people here don't care for surfing, and so surfing maps won't be bothered with. It's not like the map would be only surfing and no portaling, but what I had in mind was a unique puzzle that required surfing to gain momentum, etc.
It seems to me, that the other forum got locked because all people were doing is expressing their hate of surfing and surf maps and others accusing them of saying surfing is easy, etc.
I'm not hoping for a moral victory or flame war so please don't start one.
Quote from Duffers on April 3, 2008, 6:57 pmCalling forth GLaDOS for my input. She always knows what to say.
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Okay, Fine. Don't say anything. Bitch.
Suft maps are really lame. That's all there is to say.
Calling forth GLaDOS for my input. She always knows what to say.
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Okay, Fine. Don't say anything. Bitch.
Suft maps are really lame. That's all there is to say.
Quote from youme on April 3, 2008, 6:58 pmDuffedwaffe wrote:Calling forth GLaDOS for my input. She always knows what to say.lol fail she doesnt post in this neck of the woods
lol fail she doesnt post in this neck of the woods
Quote from Dood77 on April 3, 2008, 7:03 pmDuffedwaffe wrote:Suft maps are really lame. That's all there is to say.Like I said, I know some people don't like surfing, I just wanted to know if anyone knows specifically why it won't work and how I might get it to work.
But by now I'm just expecting most people to say something to the effect of: "Portal's physics is different, I dunno how to change it."
Like I said, I know some people don't like surfing, I just wanted to know if anyone knows specifically why it won't work and how I might get it to work.
But by now I'm just expecting most people to say something to the effect of: "Portal's physics is different, I dunno how to change it."
Quote from youme on April 3, 2008, 7:06 pmDidn't we already come to the conclusion that the one thing key for surfing wasn't available in portal, thus rendering it impossible?
Didn't we already come to the conclusion that the one thing key for surfing wasn't available in portal, thus rendering it impossible?
Quote from Dood77 on April 3, 2008, 7:11 pmAt the other thread, someone noted that sv_airaccelerate isn't available in portal, so it would be impossible. If you look back at my first post, you will notice that I used SourceMod to change it, since it's not gone, its just hidden. People trying to surf in TF2 had this same problem and I found the solution on some other forum.
At the other thread, someone noted that sv_airaccelerate isn't available in portal, so it would be impossible. If you look back at my first post, you will notice that I used SourceMod to change it, since it's not gone, its just hidden. People trying to surf in TF2 had this same problem and I found the solution on some other forum.