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Quote from Astro on December 12, 2007, 8:44 pmI think he used a blue button because you can take the cube off the button and the door stays open.
I think he used a blue button because you can take the cube off the button and the door stays open.
Quote from volt on December 13, 2007, 12:06 amKorjagun wrote:I don't know what you're talking about here, honestly. As far as I could tell, there was no element of luck involved getting the catcher puzzle to work; [spoiler]Put a portal opposite the fizzler, go up into the switch room, toggle the switch, go into a portal (to save time), then put the other end of the portal on the raised wall that's now in front of the launcher. Bingo: Ball goes into the portal, through the fizzler, and into the catcher.[/spoiler]But the ball has to travel through the place where the huge balls fly by, right? And the energy orb isn't high enough to clear the huge balls that are going by, so if their paths intersect you have to try again. And to try again, you have to walk all the way back up to the button. right?
But the ball has to travel through the place where the huge balls fly by, right? And the energy orb isn't high enough to clear the huge balls that are going by, so if their paths intersect you have to try again. And to try again, you have to walk all the way back up to the button. right?
Quote from Astro on December 13, 2007, 1:06 amits 50/50 if its going to go and really i only had it get knocked off course once, all i can say to you is dont play in the lottery!
its 50/50 if its going to go and really i only had it get knocked off course once, all i can say to you is dont play in the lottery!
Quote from Korjagun on December 13, 2007, 5:56 amI must've lucked out the first time and never realized that could happen.
I must've lucked out the first time and never realized that could happen.
Quote from xitooner on December 13, 2007, 12:06 pmThe puzzle difficulty was fairly low, but it was still fun. (before I go rant on some pet peeve of mine, I do want to make that very clear; it was enjoyable!) I had no troubles with the puzzles but I did play it 2-3 times and ran into a few quirks (yes, I did get caught by the randomness of the energy-ball puzzle, but it didnt give me TOO much trouble. It wouldnt hurt to raise the ball catcher a little and reduce the chance more, or maybe reduce the ball rate until the energy-ball part is done?) The new ball model was cool (even if excessive use could kill your framerate); I wish there were more portal-specific models being made, or were available. . .
Nice atmosphere; sometimes its good to step outside the traditional portal room setup (which admittedly gets a little sterile after a while). Changing the atmosphere is fine. . . but changing the look/feel/behavior of the standard puzzle components almost always leads to trouble, IMO. It certainly leads to controversy.
I realize there might have been a reason for the blue button; some kind of hint as to how it behaves or what you need to get it to work (ie cube only and not person, etc). . . but whatever the secret language is, the fact is it doesnt affect how I am going to approach/use the button, because this secret code isnt well-known and certainly not universally followed. Besides, I dont NEED to be able to determine the button behavior by sight from across the room, and I'd much prefer the existing standard be followed, rather than have 3-4 button colors come about to "let me know" that a button only needs to be pushed once, can be used by people as well as cubes, requires a companion cube only, etc. You wanta give a hint? MAKE NEW SIGNAGE. Its clearer for everyone involved, and doesnt go into the whole "color-blindness" issue some players have either. Same is true for fizzlers that can destroy companion cubes, like yours could. Nuff said. . .
The puzzle difficulty was fairly low, but it was still fun. (before I go rant on some pet peeve of mine, I do want to make that very clear; it was enjoyable!) I had no troubles with the puzzles but I did play it 2-3 times and ran into a few quirks (yes, I did get caught by the randomness of the energy-ball puzzle, but it didnt give me TOO much trouble. It wouldnt hurt to raise the ball catcher a little and reduce the chance more, or maybe reduce the ball rate until the energy-ball part is done?) The new ball model was cool (even if excessive use could kill your framerate); I wish there were more portal-specific models being made, or were available. . .
Nice atmosphere; sometimes its good to step outside the traditional portal room setup (which admittedly gets a little sterile after a while). Changing the atmosphere is fine. . . but changing the look/feel/behavior of the standard puzzle components almost always leads to trouble, IMO. It certainly leads to controversy.
I realize there might have been a reason for the blue button; some kind of hint as to how it behaves or what you need to get it to work (ie cube only and not person, etc). . . but whatever the secret language is, the fact is it doesnt affect how I am going to approach/use the button, because this secret code isnt well-known and certainly not universally followed. Besides, I dont NEED to be able to determine the button behavior by sight from across the room, and I'd much prefer the existing standard be followed, rather than have 3-4 button colors come about to "let me know" that a button only needs to be pushed once, can be used by people as well as cubes, requires a companion cube only, etc. You wanta give a hint? MAKE NEW SIGNAGE. Its clearer for everyone involved, and doesnt go into the whole "color-blindness" issue some players have either. Same is true for fizzlers that can destroy companion cubes, like yours could. Nuff said. . .
Quote from mur666 on December 13, 2007, 3:02 pmFirst off, kudos on a really cool level. I especially like the conclusion Glados comes to when you destroy the companion cube. I ran into some troubles like most people seem to report. The low FPS issue I think has to do with too many balls being backed up... that's what she said? Also the two lifts (not the ones by that crazy blue button) when they lowered the glass was the only thing to lower, the supports and frames were still there. You could still jump across them. I'm thinking that was not intentional? I took a screenshot if you want to see.
First off, kudos on a really cool level. I especially like the conclusion Glados comes to when you destroy the companion cube. I ran into some troubles like most people seem to report. The low FPS issue I think has to do with too many balls being backed up... that's what she said? Also the two lifts (not the ones by that crazy blue button) when they lowered the glass was the only thing to lower, the supports and frames were still there. You could still jump across them. I'm thinking that was not intentional? I took a screenshot if you want to see.
Quote from Omnie on December 13, 2007, 6:51 pmGreat map, however it's possible to get to the end without using the companion cube at all
When you have to orb ball into that room, when I was trying to fling around to avoid it the trigger activated and the wall moved out so I was able to skip the frogger-like puzzle altogether. Plus with a bit of timing it's easy to get down the little tube.
I haven't figure out how to beat the rest of it without the cube (does the blue button imply the door stays open?) but it looks great.
Great map, however it's possible to get to the end without using the companion cube at all
When you have to orb ball into that room, when I was trying to fling around to avoid it the trigger activated and the wall moved out so I was able to skip the frogger-like puzzle altogether. Plus with a bit of timing it's easy to get down the little tube.
I haven't figure out how to beat the rest of it without the cube (does the blue button imply the door stays open?) but it looks great.
Quote from xitooner on December 13, 2007, 7:15 pmQuote:Great map, however it's possible to get to the end without using the companion cube at allHmmm, to be precise based on your message, its possible to get to the final room before the exit elevator without the cube. Going farther than that. . . maybe not so easy.
Omnie wrote:I haven't figure out how to beat the rest of it without the cube (does the blue button imply the door stays open?) but it looks great.Who knows why its blue, really? It could just as easily imply that only the cube operates it. But I can tell you that if
[spoiler]the cube isnt on the button, then the balls dont stop rolling, and they do when the cube is on it. The button operates a bit different for person vs cube. Likewise, I would be suprised if you could jump on the back of a rolling ball and jump to the exit level; I would think you would need a stationary ball AND the cube to get the required height)[/spoiler]
Hmmm, to be precise based on your message, its possible to get to the final room before the exit elevator without the cube. Going farther than that. . . maybe not so easy.
Who knows why its blue, really? It could just as easily imply that only the cube operates it. But I can tell you that if
Quote from iamafractal on December 13, 2007, 8:43 pmvolt wrote:The map looks amazing. The models look great. That said...For regular map:
-Glados gets annoying quick
-Ball catcher puzzle relies too much on luck
-The walk that you have to take every time you miss the ball catcher puzzle is annoying
-The second step in the puzzle is easy to miss, as the ledge leading into the room blends in a little too much
-Getting into the second room requires 2 portals, so if you leave the companion cube without placing a portal in this room, and then go to the bottom room you have to do it all over again
-No save pointsFor advanced map: Nothing was too much harder, just more inconvenient.
-The ball catcher now relies more on luck because you have to [spoiler]use the cube to bounce the ball on a ~45 degree angle[/spoiler]Sorry to be a whine, but again the map and models look great.
i like glados, but i just wish it were new quotes.
if you set up your portal right, and use f6, there's no long walk. [spoiler]fact is you don't need the button at all if you want to use the cube to deflect the ball...[/spoiler]what happened on mine is when i got into the penultimate room, the system got really laggy. actually maybe only on the advanced chamber...
i hit f6 a lot.
one thing that wasn't satisfying is the [spoiler]fizzler at the end. i wanted to bring my friend onto the lift...and on the advanced one... NO KAKE4ME??@#)($*&[/spoiler]
For regular map:
-Glados gets annoying quick
-Ball catcher puzzle relies too much on luck
-The walk that you have to take every time you miss the ball catcher puzzle is annoying
-The second step in the puzzle is easy to miss, as the ledge leading into the room blends in a little too much
-Getting into the second room requires 2 portals, so if you leave the companion cube without placing a portal in this room, and then go to the bottom room you have to do it all over again
-No save points
For advanced map: Nothing was too much harder, just more inconvenient.
-The ball catcher now relies more on luck because you have to
Sorry to be a whine, but again the map and models look great.
i like glados, but i just wish it were new quotes.
if you set up your portal right, and use f6, there's no long walk.
what happened on mine is when i got into the penultimate room, the system got really laggy. actually maybe only on the advanced chamber...
i hit f6 a lot.
one thing that wasn't satisfying is the
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Quote from Omnie on December 14, 2007, 1:15 amxitooner wrote:Hmmm, to be precise based on your message, its possible to get to the final room before the exit elevator without the cube. Going farther than that. . . maybe not so easy.
Who knows why its blue, really? It could just as easily imply that only the cube operates it. But I can tell you that ifYah that's what I mean. You can get to the final room without the cube.
As for getting up there without a cube... I'm not sure if it would be possible but it might be. I haven't looked at the terrain around the area to attempt it.
Who knows why its blue, really? It could just as easily imply that only the cube operates it. But I can tell you that if
Yah that's what I mean. You can get to the final room without the cube.
As for getting up there without a cube... I'm not sure if it would be possible but it might be. I haven't looked at the terrain around the area to attempt it.