The Real Behind the Scenes thread
Quote from cornontheCoD on June 22, 2008, 11:48 pmI though it would be interesting to hear what some people scrapped from their maps, or had an idea for, but never implemented into their map.
Basically this thread is like a "making of" where the poster talks about some of their mapping experiences, stories of mapping, scrapped ideas, etc.
edit: if this is should be in general discussion, go ahead and move it
I though it would be interesting to hear what some people scrapped from their maps, or had an idea for, but never implemented into their map.
Basically this thread is like a "making of" where the poster talks about some of their mapping experiences, stories of mapping, scrapped ideas, etc.
edit: if this is should be in general discussion, go ahead and move it
Quote from taco on June 23, 2008, 12:30 amI scrap all kinds of stuff all the time -and that's on top of a lot of careful planning.
Recent example of a large scraping:
I have been working on finishing up Tunneling Chamber 02 this last week (will hopefully be done sooner than later) and one puzzle required the use of a fling-pit and so, I built a complex pit with ~30 steps on pistons (alternating 1 piston, 2 pistons).Then I played the puzzle a few times and decided that I didn't like the way the walls above the pit looked (because of how large the pit needed to be to accommodate the steps) so I deleted the pit and built a new one that takes up about a quarter of the space and 1/7 the brushes - I went from over 700 brushes in that room, to just over 100.
I also have a number of puzzles that were going to be used in maps but just didn't fit. They are now sitting in separate files waiting to be used... someday.
I scrap all kinds of stuff all the time -and that's on top of a lot of careful planning.
Recent example of a large scraping:
I have been working on finishing up Tunneling Chamber 02 this last week (will hopefully be done sooner than later) and one puzzle required the use of a fling-pit and so, I built a complex pit with ~30 steps on pistons (alternating 1 piston, 2 pistons).
Then I played the puzzle a few times and decided that I didn't like the way the walls above the pit looked (because of how large the pit needed to be to accommodate the steps) so I deleted the pit and built a new one that takes up about a quarter of the space and 1/7 the brushes - I went from over 700 brushes in that room, to just over 100.
I also have a number of puzzles that were going to be used in maps but just didn't fit. They are now sitting in separate files waiting to be used... someday.
Quote from Remmiz on June 23, 2008, 1:02 pmWay too many things. Each of my puzzles probably go through 4 different versions before settling on a final one.
Way too many things. Each of my puzzles probably go through 4 different versions before settling on a final one.
Quote from reepblue on June 23, 2008, 2:33 pmMy Box Catcher is still in works and it already went though 4 changes. from what I put in it and the sound. I added a trigger so if the player does not put in the box, but something else, the object will be killed. However, I want it to fizzle....
I made a map once on how you had to open a door, two buttons, and one box. You had to fit a box under a tight area where there was one of the buttons and you ad to flip a switch to make a piller come down tightly to the other button. however, Source's graphics came in to place and it was like "No Way!". I forgot how it reacted but it did not go as planned. It was in my second month of mapping.
My Box Catcher is still in works and it already went though 4 changes. from what I put in it and the sound. I added a trigger so if the player does not put in the box, but something else, the object will be killed. However, I want it to fizzle....
I made a map once on how you had to open a door, two buttons, and one box. You had to fit a box under a tight area where there was one of the buttons and you ad to flip a switch to make a piller come down tightly to the other button. however, Source's graphics came in to place and it was like "No Way!". I forgot how it reacted but it did not go as planned. It was in my second month of mapping.
The more you give, the less appreciated it will be received.
Quote from Doomsday192 on June 23, 2008, 2:44 pmreepblue wrote:I added a trigger so if the player does not put in the box, but something else, the object will be killed. However, I want it to fizzle....you can fix that by putting a trigger_portal_cleanser with a filter name that skips the box object and the player
you can fix that by putting a trigger_portal_cleanser with a filter name that skips the box object and the player
Quote from Duffers on June 23, 2008, 2:52 pmI never scrap, scrapping is a waste of time. I work with the mistake and try to work it into something new.
I never scrap, scrapping is a waste of time. I work with the mistake and try to work it into something new.
Quote from Remmiz on June 23, 2008, 3:16 pmDuffedwaffe wrote:I never scrap, scrapping is a waste of time. I work with the mistake and try to work it into something new.Much to learn young one. There is never wasted time in mapping, only experiences and learning.
Much to learn young one. There is never wasted time in mapping, only experiences and learning.
Quote from youme on June 23, 2008, 3:20 pmDuffedwaffe wrote:I never scrap, scrapping is a waste of time. I work with the mistake and try to work it into something new.Bad practice right there. Sure scrapping something every time it goes wrong is stupid and even worse practice but every now and then you have to admit defeat and accept that what you've made is a pile of crap.
I've redesigned I think 3 or 4 complete TS13 levels and I completely rebuild half of one of my TF2 maps because it was just terrible.
Bad practice right there. Sure scrapping something every time it goes wrong is stupid and even worse practice but every now and then you have to admit defeat and accept that what you've made is a pile of crap.
I've redesigned I think 3 or 4 complete TS13 levels and I completely rebuild half of one of my TF2 maps because it was just terrible.
Quote from Hurricaaane on June 23, 2008, 3:32 pmI tried to implement the concept of door haxing, where you putting a portal under 2 closed doors is a key goal for the puzzle, after a training level for that technique.
I tried to implement the concept of door haxing, where you putting a portal under 2 closed doors is a key goal for the puzzle, after a training level for that technique.
Author of Minecraft mods (MAtmos, Minaptics, NoteSlider) and Garry's Mod addons (Gunstrumental, SharpeYe, GarryWare, DepthHUD).
Quote from Doomsday192 on June 23, 2008, 5:30 pmim scrapping the first 2 chambers of omega, in favor of some a bit more complex, like chamber 3
im scrapping the first 2 chambers of omega, in favor of some a bit more complex, like chamber 3