Windows & Macs (and Linux too!)
GNOME, KDE, it's all the same bullshit to me. I'd be really happy if I could 1-2 click add shit to my start bar, and if I didn't have to basically recompile the kernel to get my desktop to go beyond 1024x768.
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Oh hell yes. FYI, it originally came from ubergeek.tv
That sums f0rkz up in a nutshell. He buys electronics based on whether or not he can put linux and IRC on them.
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I think XP is decent, but....I've seen it go all GLaDOS before, so I'm highly reluctant to use it for anything mission critical.
A friend of mine who writes a lot of code....for whatever reason, gets locked out of his own executables...it tells him he doesn't have the privileges to run them..even if they were just running moments before....he just makes a change, compiles them again...and suddenly everything is in lock down....and that's just a recent example, i've seen windows do all sorts of insane mind-bending things before...and I'm sure that OS X has it's fair share of glitches...somewhere...I just haven't been able to find them yet. (though Apple obviously offers technical support for a reason)
I have an iBook laptop....and I couldn't be too much happier with it..it's not even a new fancy one, it's a G4...it's solid as a rock no matter how many stupid things i do to it...and it gives me all the freedoms i'd want to tinker around with things....there is a pretty strong myth that OS X is not an OS for tinkerers, this is simply incorrect. Those candy-like cute 'packages' you run instead of executables.....those are virtual folders....you can open them and mess with their contents almost exactly as you would in windows. I find that among many useful features, the laptop itself, because of OS X, is a very useful diagnostic tool for PCs...or other macs.....or..just about anything really. Built into OS X's distribution are all kinds of tools that tell you what's going on "behind the scenes" or worse comes to worse, you can just get into terminal mode which makes dos look like a walk in the park. One of my favorite tools there is a USB probe that gives you all kinds of insightful readouts on what's actually going on with the USB controller so you can tell if some devices are struggling, or if something deeply sinister is wrong. In the realm of just plain everyday usefulness, I use my apple to verify media and it can pretty much read any disc I put in it, where as windows will stare at it for ten minutes, do nothing, then give me an error while halting all of my other processes.
I'm pretty sure in the future, once I get the money, the only windows I'll have will be running on a virtual machine on a mac of mine...because for me windows serves one purpose....games....and even then, most of the games I play are universal, so for me it's pretty much a non-issue.
Most of the time I find that it's not even that ..ohh OS X is so great...let's all make sweet tender love to everything Steve Jobs says is A-ok....it's just that the alternatives just suck worse....If I never had to use windows again, I wouldn't. XP is the only one I can live with so far....2K, 98, NT, 95 ect....all...did so many stupid things, each and everyday was a war to get things to run....i'd have to set up different boot sequences just to make it so the computer could do certain things without crashing 500 times. 98, if i'm not mistaken, made the BSOD famous...yeah, 95 wasn't perfect...but....just try getting certain drivers to work in 98...go for it...watch what happens...also, having it said that XP is the only one I can stand (because it's the only one so far that does *most of the time* any of this crap it claims it can do, without making me buy a stupid upgrade to do the same crap I did before)...Vista is right out....ohhh...congratulations...your network code FINALLY doesn't suck, congrats...it only took...what...over 15 years to get that minor issue out of the way? That's more of an embarrassment than it is an accomplishment of any kind. But above all.....consider this...
What do people use computers for? on average...email..myspace type crap....music...movies....games....sometimes work....and of course....porn.....
I'm reasonably certain that this list of tasks hasn't changed in the slightest in the past ten years....
So, our hardware has seen incredible advances, major breakthroughs in parallelization and energy efficiency...not to mention the positively ludicrous number of cores we have in a single desktop PC now...
What does Vista do? What do these arrogant pricks expect of us with all of their amazing technology.....easily TWICE the system requirements of XP....and what's it doing for us? DX10? That's it? We've waited..through all of their crap....for DX10...only to find that of course..the only way to use it is to buy more of their crap to play the same old games (gameplay wise) with bloom shaders that make me want to gouge my eyes out.
So, after all of their reworking of the core of the OS, and adding in all this fancy alpha shaded crap that serves little to no purpose, which they pretty much exclusively stole the ideas from Sun Microsystems Java OS and stuff Apples been working on for a while......Microsoft's system requirements reccomend 2GB of ram...and REQUIRE a 3d accelerator.
It's a desktop operating system. ....WHY....does it need 2GB of ram?
Is that evolution? Is that improvement? Doing the same old crap with what would have been a supercomputer just 7 years ago....
It's not about Apple being great...it's about me not wanting to stab myself in the face with a bronzed set of antlers every time I hear about what Microsoft refers to as "advancement".
My dream machine? the atomic bomb. screw computers.
/rant
Damn Steve thats the longest post yet on this forum, and also along with that you're very right, However I prefer Xp, its just alot more stable at the time over Vista, and I've never really truly used Mac, so I can't say for sure about that.
Mac is (or has been) based on a Unix kernel, not Linux. Mac does not use KDE or GNOME.
I grew up using only PC's. I had never heard a good thing about Macs, and I typically bashed them like everyone else. But about 4 years ago I started working on a Mac, and I've used them regularly since then.
Obviously, I still use a PC for gaming and running some software, but I would much rather always be on a Mac.
If we're arguing which operating system is better, Mac wins hands down. But if you're arguing over necessity or compatibility, that will vary from person to person or company to company.
There was a time when I sided with Microsoft, but now I'm utterly disgusted with that company. Read up on its legacy of stealing code, IP, and patents, then creating inferior products. Then they would use shady business ethics to make their inferior products industry standard. Microsoft has done more than any other company to HURT the computer industry.
Moving forward, it's a common misconception that buying a Mac limits your choices. In fact, the reversal is true for me: there's lots of good software for Macs that I wish I could run on PCs. There are HUNDREDS of companies producing third-party software for OS X. On a PC, you're unaware of them because websites and search engines will detect your OS and filter your results (when I search for software on Google on my Mac, all the results are for Mac shareware/freeware/commercial products).
When I'm on my PC, I constantly have to CTRL+ALT+DELETE, or go to MSCONFIG, or go to ADMIN TOOLS -> SERVICES. On my PC I have to run antivirus, spyware removal, adware removal, rootkit removal, registry cleaners, and several process managers. I know what I'm doing; I keep XP running at 16 processes. But on my Mac, I don't have to do ANY of that... it just works.
But there are so many little hacks and ways to customize a Mac that it blows my mind. Quick search of all files and their contents, built-in disc imaging and virtual drives (mount an ISO / DMG / Flash Drive / Network Drive / etc as if it was a HD), quick links to files or folders or URLS in the Dock and all Finder windows, fully customizable interface to change the way you view files, expose with F9 - F11, dashboard & widgets with F12, key commands for everything, automation and scripting of events, terminal and other hacks. Vista (which I run at work) is literally a rerelease of XP with several of OS X's amazing features.
I'm not interested in starting a flame war, I was just trying to add my two cents. On a side note, I'm disappointed that Apple has continued its Mac commercials flaming PCs. They are doing more to push potential costumers away than embrace them.
I like to think the atomic bomb line sums it all up.
don't get me started on linux.....you think THAT post was long...
side note:
Yeah, Apple's propoganda ads are fairly absurd at times....
however, Apple could tell me that hitler was my mother
and nothing will make me not want a mac mini
I said that Max was unix-based, not linux-based. And the KDE/GNOME was side-track bullshit.
The rest was tl;dr.
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Quicksilver FT fucking W
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I work with Mac's all the time. There are two employees where I'm working right now that are using Macs, with Leopard installed. They have just as many problems as everyone else who's using a Windows PC.
At the music studios I go to, they almost all use Macs. Again, they crash way too often for stupid reasons. I'm talking about the Mixing Room Macs that have nearly nothing on them except for ProTools and Toast.
It's easy to give Finder a heart attack.
All that out of the way, I don't like the design philosophy of modern software. It doesn't matter if it's on a Windows or Mac PC. I don't want this easy and accessible shit. Give me 10 page preference screens and the ability to completely tear-down the program if I want to. I blame that on Apple with their one-button-everything. :E~~