Quote from Spacemonkey on October 18, 2007, 5:45 pm

DiddyKong42 wrote:

Space monkey, Maps are not suppose to be easy...

If he would make it larger then people would complain about it being so big and easy to get into.

Portal is meant to be a thinking game, not a lucky I fell into this tiny hole game.

Most of this map does require a lot of thinking, which I like. But after figuring out that I had to get into that room, it took me 20 goes to get into the room. I already knew how I had to get in there, so I had figured out the thinking part of the puzzle. The only thing left was the physical aspect of getting in, which in the end resulted in luck getting me into that room. Maps shouldn't rely on luck.

Quote from Mapster on October 18, 2007, 5:54 pm

I'll give this a try in an hour or so.
Gotta get my maths done

Quote from msleeper on October 18, 2007, 5:55 pm

PORTALS ARE MADE USING MATHS.

PORTAL > MATH

Quote from Mapster on October 18, 2007, 6:05 pm

Anyone know what this means?

-456 -8764 64 0 90 0

I'll give you a cookie if you tell me

Quote from msleeper on October 18, 2007, 6:19 pm

Looks like a vector to me.

Quote from Shmitz on October 18, 2007, 7:11 pm

While I was able to get info_overlay_accessor to show up as an overlay in Hammer, when I compiled nothing showed up in-game. Simply changing it to info_overlay compiled correctly, but obviously wouldn't toggle. My bet is that we just need to wait for the updated tools (which is why my own map will be staying WIP until then).

Quote from Ralph on October 18, 2007, 7:30 pm

Shmitz wrote:

While I was able to get info_overlay_accessor to show up as an overlay in Hammer, when I compiled nothing showed up in-game. Simply changing it to info_overlay compiled correctly, but obviously wouldn't toggle. My bet is that we just need to wait for the updated tools (which is why my own map will be staying WIP until then).

If only this were the case, but if you take a valve map, decompile then recompile the overlays work correctly. I even went through the map files side by side in notepad but counldn't figure out what was different.

Quote from Irish Taxi Driver on October 18, 2007, 8:08 pm

Spacemonkey wrote:

Nice level, well designed. However I don't like the part where you have to jump into the room with the sentry gun, took me like 20 tries to get in their. Maybe you could make the opening a bit larger to be more forgiving. I found it quite frustrating.

Game Visuals: 5
Nice lighting

Puzzle Difficulty: 3
Even though I knew I had to get into the sentry room, it took me so many tries I found it quite annoying.
Getting the box down the tube was fun though.

General Gameplay Feel: 5

Also, the door to the box opens on touch (but the lift still doesn't go down, so still need to press the button)

I've already had to widen the hole a few times because testers couldn't get it, I'm gonna leave it alone. I disagree with you on the luck thing. I can get it nearly every time now.

espen180 wrote:

Graphics are awesome, but it's got that eerie maze-like feel to it. I like test chambers to be simple, but yet challenging.

Is that positive or negative? I can't tell.

Quote from msleeper on October 18, 2007, 8:23 pm

Ralph wrote:

If only this were the case, but if you take a valve map, decompile then recompile the overlays work correctly. I even went through the map files side by side in notepad but counldn't figure out what was different.

I am pretty sure the env_texturetoggle entity is the key here, not the info_overlay_accessor.