Our own wiki? [Poll]

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p0rtalplayer
1,366 Posts
Posted May 17, 2012
The fellows at theportalwiki.com has generously offered to let us carve out a mapping tutorials section on their site. So we have [strike:2bmvs89u]2[/strike:2bmvs89u] 3 options:

1) Use our own wiki, and maybe some of their images if need be
2) Use their wiki, which would be where the "wiki" link at the top bar goes to. And maybe we could get a link-back, that would depend on how far the unofficial partnership goes.
3) Have our wiki link to theportalwiki.com for some of the articles. More content, and we get our own wiki.

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vanSulli
994 Posts
Posted May 17, 2012
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If this was a merge, I'd mostly be for it because it'd kickstart nicely. Otherwise, I'm pretty ambiguous - why link users to a different wiki, no matter the quality, without any reason for them to ever come back?
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Sven
306 Posts
Posted May 17, 2012
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[url:18v3a3sb]http://theportalwiki.com/wiki/MyApertureLabs[/url:18v3a3sb]

The original site actually got an article; we've yet to make/receive one for this new site thus far, but since we're still in early dev (not even a month old), that's fine with me.

It should be noted that ThinkingWithPortals has a link back to their website, and I feel that if we grow as we intend to, it's inevitable that we will get the same treatment.

And besides; we can help bring one another traffic and exposure, and I'm sure that they (thePortalWiki staff [and myself, already an editor]) would love to see some activity on the Wiki.

vanSulli wrote:
If this was a merge, I'd mostly be for it because it'd kickstart nicely. Otherwise, I'm pretty ambiguous - why link users to a different wiki, no matter the quality, without any reason for them to ever come back?

A valid concern.

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vanSulli
994 Posts
Posted May 17, 2012
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Sven wrote:
It should be noted that ThinkingWithPortals has a link back to their website, and I feel that if we grow as we intend to, it's inevitable that we will get the same treatment.

That's one tiny link for man*. Hopefully one giant clickback for mankind.

*It took me about a minute and a half to find it.

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Omeqa
578 Posts
Posted May 17, 2012
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TBH, i don't know, if we get our own wiki, our water will surely be there, and our website will be remembered by the viewer, the problem is, there will not be that much viewers in the beginning. But if we get a tutorial series on theportalwiki, we will have a vast target audience but our watermark may not be seen by the viewers.
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Groxkiller585
652 Posts
Posted May 17, 2012
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I have an idea:

Why not have our own wiki, but link it to theportalwiki too? Like how TF2 wiki links to it. This gives us both the advantage of a new site, and gets more feedback. As a result theportalwiki gets more hits too. it's win-win!

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p0rtalplayer
1,366 Posts
Posted May 17, 2012
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Added the third option, good suggestion Grox. Re-cast your votes.
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kizzycocoa
975 Posts
Posted May 17, 2012
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Our own wiki, or no wiki. It must be one of the two.

We can suggest wikis, sure. but if you want a wiki, you make it, or you support it. we may as well be linking to the VDC.

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Groxkiller585
652 Posts
Posted May 17, 2012
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Kizzycocoa wrote:
Our own wiki, or no wiki. It must be one of the two.

We can suggest wikis, sure. but if you want a wiki, you make it, or you support it. we may as well be linking to the VDC.

Actually, we WERE going to link to the VDC lol

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p0rtalplayer
1,366 Posts
Posted May 17, 2012
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Let me clarify

The links would be to content that's not really relevant to our site. For example, GLaDOS bio, specific Test Chambers, etc. I was already planning to link to the VDC for specific entity info, or at least consider it. I don't see why there would be a big problem with this, but that's why we're taking a vote I guess.

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kizzycocoa
975 Posts
Posted May 17, 2012
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p0rtalplayer wrote:
Let me clarify

The links would be to content that's not really relevant to our site. For example, GLaDOS bio, specific Test Chambers, etc. I was already planning to link to the VDC for specific entity info, or at least consider it. I don't see why there would be a big problem with this, but that's why we're taking a vote I guess.

not only is it silly on a site basis, but also on a content basis.

on a site basis, we lose visitors to competing wikis

on a content basis, they will migrate to the VDC regardless, as they have more content, and the same content.

it's illogical on competing, or content basis's. full stop.

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Sven
306 Posts
Posted May 17, 2012
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Kizzycocoa wrote:

p0rtalplayer wrote:
Let me clarify

The links would be to content that's not really relevant to our site. For example, GLaDOS bio, specific Test Chambers, etc. I was already planning to link to the VDC for specific entity info, or at least consider it. I don't see why there would be a big problem with this, but that's why we're taking a vote I guess.>
not only is it silly on a site basis, but also on a content basis.

on a site basis, we lose visitors to competing wikis

on a content basis, they will migrate to the VDC regardless, as they have more content, and the same content.

it's illogical on competing, or content basis's. full stop.

Then why do we bother paying for our forum?

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Groxkiller585
652 Posts
Posted May 17, 2012
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Kizzycocoa wrote:

p0rtalplayer wrote:
Let me clarify

The links would be to content that's not really relevant to our site. For example, GLaDOS bio, specific Test Chambers, etc. I was already planning to link to the VDC for specific entity info, or at least consider it. I don't see why there would be a big problem with this, but that's why we're taking a vote I guess.>
not only is it silly on a site basis, but also on a content basis.

on a site basis, we lose visitors to competing wikis

on a content basis, they will migrate to the VDC regardless, as they have more content, and the same content.

it's illogical on competing, or content basis's. full stop.

Your not thinking this through. Most of our content will prolly revolve around tutorials, and you can have an abundance of those because each person will explain it differently and certain people like certain tutorials.

Is there a chance of loss of views? Well if we don't link, we won't have many to begin with, so w/e we lose will be outweighed by what we gain.

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kizzycocoa
975 Posts
Posted May 17, 2012
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Sven wrote:
Then why do we bother paying for our forum?

for a better community than the inactive inexpirienced mAL, and the flaming TWP.

groxkiller585 wrote:
Your not thinking this through. Most of our content will prolly revolve around tutorials, and you can have an abundance of those because each person will explain it differently and certain people like certain tutorials.

Is there a chance of loss of views? Well if we don't link, we won't have many to begin with, so w/e we lose will be outweighed by what we gain.

why can't we have a tutorial forum then? :I

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Omeqa
578 Posts
Posted May 17, 2012
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I was thinking of a tutorial section on the forums too, but IDK, but it would feel weird, and a wiki is much cleaner, and looks professional.
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kizzycocoa
975 Posts
Posted May 17, 2012
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Kopeke wrote:
I was thinking of a tutorial section on the forums too, but IDK, but it would feel weird, and a wiki is much cleaner, and looks professional.

yet a wiki is a whole other situation. a wiki demands more content than forums. a lot more content.

and the spam will be plentiful. now, TWO sites to moderate.

and if we join with another, we may as well not be a forum at all, as the traffic will redirect to them for tutorials.

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Sven
306 Posts
Posted May 25, 2012
Replied 7 days later
The wiki is driving me insane. So many templates just to get some sort of good flow going.

Screw it.

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Jomonay
294 Posts
Posted May 25, 2012
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Kizzycocoa wrote:

he flaming TWP.

Stop this shit.

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kizzycocoa
975 Posts
Posted May 25, 2012
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Jomonay wrote:

Kizzycocoa wrote:

he flaming TWP.

Stop this shit.

wut? everyone I've met agrees the older members of TWP are trolly. I've not met one person who's disagreed.

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Termikxs
182 Posts
Posted May 25, 2012
Replied 54 minutes later
I'm sorry, but I have to agree with Kizzy on this one.
I dislike TWP as well.
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