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Though honestly, I don't trust myself to make an educated decision about the candidates of the current run. Maybe that'll change in 4 years.

p0rtalplayer wrote:
I'll be able to vote come next election

Though honestly, I don't trust myself to make an educated decision about the candidates of the current run. Maybe that'll change in 4 years.

I can't say I'm too hot on the policies of either parties, but when it comes to Romney vs Obama one choice jumps out as the better one.

If you Americans just voted for Ron Paul, things in your country would get better, WAY faster. Yet as he's outside this obamaromney rhetoric, no-one will, fearing their vote won't count. It's particularly sad, really.

Kizzycocoa wrote:
The solution to the election is so blatantly obvious, yet no-one is going to do it.

If you Americans just voted for Ron Paul, things in your country would get better, WAY faster. Yet as he's outside this obamaromney rhetoric, no-one will, fearing their vote won't count. It's particularly sad, really.

Really sad when you consider that, unless many many other folks vote for the same canidate too, it really won't count.

But it's not about if your vote 'counts' it's about voting for who YOU think should be president, not what current trends make it out to be. It's not like that anymore...

Kizzycocoa wrote:
the day American politicians allowed people to donate to their campaigns, is the day democracy died there.

Before the country ever started, then.

vanSulli wrote:

Kizzycocoa wrote:
the day American politicians allowed people to donate to their campaigns, is the day democracy died there.>

Before the country ever started, then.

basically, yeah.

I mean, lets not forget many of your founding fathers had slaves while writing the constitution, and even after the emancipation proclamation. was that democracy?

Kizzycocoa wrote:
I mean, lets not forget many of your founding fathers had slaves while writing the constitution, and even after the emancipation proclamation. was that democracy?

Partially.

Kizzycocoa wrote:

I mean, lets not forget many of your founding fathers had slaves while writing the constitution, and even after the emancipation proclamation. was that democracy?

It's not a democracy, technically. It's a republic.

wikipedia wrote:
A republic is a form of government in which the country is considered a "public matter" (Latin: res publica), not the private concern or property of the rulers, and where offices of states are subsequently directly or indirectly elected or appointed rather than inherited.

But nonetheless, woman didn't officially get the vote in America until 1920. Which only helps your point.

vanSulli wrote:
It never was 'like that.' The very first election ever held in this country was a setup.

If it was, I don't think it'd matter: the majority did want Washington as the first offical president.

I do see your point however.

Kidding aside: I am perfectly comfortable discussing my religion, because we all know that Space Frientology is the Best.

Side note: I wasn't kidding when I was shouting about pumpkins.

I am non-religious, but open to the more spiritual side of religion's general lore, such as ghosts and the like. I'd not immediately reject it, but I'd like proof for both before fully accepting it

Kizzycocoa wrote:
same. I'm comfortable with discussing it.

I am non-religious, but open to the more spiritual side of religion's general lore, such as ghosts and the like. I'd not immediately reject it, but I'd like proof for both before fully accepting it

Trying to prove to someone that their beliefs is wrong without them bragging about it is just being a dick, I hope that's what you meant with the

Kopeke wrote:

Kizzycocoa wrote:
same. I'm comfortable with discussing it.

I am non-religious, but open to the more spiritual side of religion's general lore, such as ghosts and the like. I'd not immediately reject it, but I'd like proof for both before fully accepting it >

Trying to prove to someone that their beliefs is wrong without them bragging about it is just being a dick, I hope that's what you meant with the

I don't brag about anyone being wrong, even though I find believing in something blindly to be so utterly insane.

I take a attitude of "to each, their own".

you wanna marry an 85 year old? ok. you wanna get 500 tattoos? good luck. you want more than one partner? ok then.

do I think that's insane? of course! but the thing I do, which I find americans I meet have trouble with, is not mention how crazy it is. if everyone could learn to live and let live, while still thinking it's crazy, there would be so little conflict.