just because you can connect to the 4th dimension does not mean that you get to have a shorter distance between any two 3d points.

take for example a piece of paper, the surface of which is basically 2 dimensional, and then draw a line between 2 points. if you then took a piece of string between those two points, the string would have to be longer than the line, if you kept the paper flat. bending the paper up to shorten the length between the points in 3 dimensions, would be a seriously energy intensive task, moving a whole universe to pin two points together. i do not really see how you can start pinning multiple points of an entire universe together like that anyway unless you had enormous amounts of energy to spare. even so, how do you bend an entire universe?

Correct, and why do you think the ASHPD is ...
<GLaDOS voice>
"worth more than the combined incomes and organs of everyone in <Subject Hometown Here>"
</GLaDOS voice>
...?
Apperantly they found some way to do it, no matter how much energy is needed and regardless the small size of the Portal Gun.

The did it with admin hax

youme wrote:
The did it with admin hax

Probably true.

even if they bend the universe, wouldn't we... notice? because bending a 3d universe would probably make it shit a brick, figuratively.

JLipimpski wrote:
if they bend the universe, wouldn't we... notice?

nope no matter how much you bend a universe in higher dimensions the residents of the lower dimensions won't notice anything.

I think everyone here is forgetting the most important thing of all.

...It's a shower curtain.

AvalonSkies wrote:
I think everyone here is forgetting the most important thing of all.

...It's a shower curtain.

You register and make THAT your first post?!?!?! O.o

Anyhoo, welcome to the forum.

youme wrote:
You register and make THAT your first post?!?!?! O.o

Anyhoo, welcome to the forum.

that just made me actually laugh... my parents gave me a funny look... >.>

Anyway, i think i have a new application for portals. The military could use it as a way to fire missiles from one centralized location in their country, and have troops with portal guns somewhere else and they would only fire one color... they would fire a portal at a suitable location to fire missiles from, radio in to create the other color portal back at base in their country, and then they would fire missiles to their location, making missile launching easier and less susceptible to attack.

Thats a stupid idea!
Heres why:

A crack team takes out the soldiers with said portal guns and then uses them and radios back to launch the missle, only uh oh! its in their own back yard!
Damn terrorists!

youme wrote:
Thats a stupid idea!
Heres why:

A crack team takes out the soldiers with said portal guns and then uses them and radios back to launch the missle, only uh oh! its in their own back yard!
Damn terrorists!

damn (terrorists).

meh, portals in real life would still be the shit. like fo real.

me+portal gun+midwest ski area (its all flat... basically)=portal at top of mountain, portal at bottom of mountain, never actually stop skiing, just go through portals (i'd have to build up a li'l jump to jump into the portal at the bottom... but it'd be so awesome. I want Colorado's mountains, in Illinois.)

psh you guys and your military thoughts.

i'd use them for... ventilation...air conditioning and heating.... as well as for a nice decorative fountain.

there's nothing quite as fun as a perpetual motion machine.

i don't have to know the power is coming from some black hole in another galaxy.

On a serious note, does anyone actually think it's possible to make 'irl p0rtal lawl 1337' ?

LOL:

Do you understand me?When you make sometihng like this

What happens when i grab it,and rotate it.

Bosf wrote:
What happens when i grab it,and rotate it.

It's quite simple really (after you sit there and think about it for a few hours). The bottom of the pole would move in the opposite direction to the top of the pole, and you couldn't really rotate it at all if you had welded it. But you could rotate it slightly if it was attached using sticky tape. In the first picture imagine there is sticky tape connecting each side to each other, I forgot to put the tape in the zoomed in image. The second picture shows that each end has been welded.

MS paint ftw

Bosf wrote:
LOL:

Do you understand me?When you make sometihng like this

What happens when i grab it,and rotate it.

heh wouldn't the poll be falling down, even if you connect it, at terminal velocity?

you'd have to keep it from moving by connecting something to it somewhere.

Grudge wrote:
On a serious note, does anyone actually think it's possible to make 'irl p0rtal lawl 1337' ?

As I posted many pages ago, Larry Niven did some serious thought about this.

Hober wrote:
Anyone seriously interested in this might also want to dig up a copy of "The Theory and Practice of Teleportation" by Larry Niven. It's an essay collected in All the Myriad Ways which attacks teleportation in many different aspects, the most rigorous being with a system with an "entrance" and an "exit" that mirrors the circumstances of Portal very closely.

He comes to some very interesting conclusions. For example, if you dropped anything into an infinite portal series (ex a portal on the roof and floor that line up), what you end up with is something that rapidly reaches terminal velocity. Remove the air and it continues to accelerate until it reaches a considerable fraction of the speed of light and begins to gain mass that eventually becomes gravitationally significant and throws the Earth out of rotation.

Of course, the only place this could be carried out would be the North or South Pole, because otherwise whatever was passing between portals would drift due to the Coriolis Effect and there would be no way to keep it going into the transmitter.

(Due to relativtity, nothing can travel at the speed of light. As an object accelerates closer to the speed of light, it gains more mass. As a result, a constant force could never accelerate an object to light speed. Basically, momentum is velocity times mass. So to have a force (e.x. gravity) acting on an object, therefore increasing its momentum, and if velocity can't reach the speed of light, then mass has to be the thing that increase.)

Thanks Hobs.

There was lots of stuff back there that was a bit to much for me at the time of posting, or I probably would've noticed.

E1025 wrote:
It's quite simple really (after you sit there and think about it for a few hours). The bottom of the pole would move in the opposite direction to the top of the pole, and you couldn't really rotate it at all if you had welded it. But you could rotate it slightly if it was attached using sticky tape. In the first picture imagine there is sticky tape connecting each side to each other, I forgot to put the tape in the zoomed in image. The second picture shows that each end has been welded.

MS paint ftw

Explain to me why exactly rotating one part of the pole would cause the other "half" to rotate the other direction.

As far as I can infer from your drawings, and from portal physics themselves, even the orientation of the portal itself doesn't change how it rotates around it's Z axis. Any other axis, then yes, the portal orientation DOES matter, but.. uh.. You could twist that pole as much as you wanted.