Moral Issue

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knizz
6 Posts
Posted Jul 02, 2009
I'm working on a "project":
I decompile maps and cut them into little pieces to get a lot of "prefabs". Would you consider that as stealing ?

I don't do it because I'm too stupid for mapping (in fact I'm very good at the "technical" stuff) but prefabs make everything easier.

David

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HMW
806 Posts
Posted Jul 02, 2009
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To tackle the moral issue first: [copying] someone else's work without their permission is stealing. Full stop.

Also, the de-compiling tools never give you the same result as the original VMF file. If you haven't already, have a look at the info about de-compiling on the Valve developer site.

If you want prefabs for common puzzle elements, check out Aldez's prefab collection.

Edited: changed "using" into "copying"; basically what Remmiz says. Also made the link more prominent.

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Remmiz
631 Posts
Posted Jul 02, 2009
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Decompiling and examining the map: Fine.
Decompiling and copying the map: Not fine.
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Ricotez
738 Posts
Posted Jul 02, 2009
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Remmiz wrote:
Decompiling and examining the map: Fine.
Decompiling and copying the map: Not fine.

This.

If you want prefabs, search this site's download database; someone (can't remember who, sorry) created a pack of prefabs.

Of course, you don't learn anything by using prefabs. Also, they will probably be fitted to the map they originally came from, so it may be hard to adjust them for your map.

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knizz
6 Posts
Posted Jul 03, 2009
Replied 21 hours later
Thank you.

It's not a problem anymore because I asked the creator of the map. :wink:

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HMW
806 Posts
Posted Jul 03, 2009
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Excellent.

Don't forget to give that person credit when you publish your map! :wink:

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Ricotez
738 Posts
Posted Jul 05, 2009
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knizz wrote:
Thank you.

It's not a problem anymore because I asked the creator of the map. :wink:

Really? Congratulations, you are on your way to become an ethically correct map maker!

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jrlauer
545 Posts
Posted Jul 06, 2009
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Ricotez wrote:
...ethically correct map maker!

Is that the politically correct term?

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Ricotez
738 Posts
Posted Jul 07, 2009
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jrlauer wrote:
Is that the politically correct term?

Bah, like politic people are concerned about ethics. All they want are the most votes.

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jrlauer
545 Posts
Posted Jul 07, 2009
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Ricotez wrote:
Bah, like politic people are concerned about ethics. All they want are the most votes.

How right you are.

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Stormrain
80 Posts
Posted Jul 07, 2009
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jrlauer wrote:
How right you are.

Or left, as the case may be.

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jrlauer
545 Posts
Posted Jul 07, 2009
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Stormrain wrote:
Or left, as the case may be.

This is true statement as well.

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theVDude
120 Posts
Posted Jul 07, 2009
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Thanks for the tips with the prefabs. I want to start making maps, so I'll be sure to check those out.
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Ricotez
738 Posts
Posted Jul 08, 2009
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jrlauer wrote:
This is true statement as well.

I'm starting to get a headache. It's the first time spam has done that to me; usually it just makes my eyes bleed.

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jrlauer
545 Posts
Posted Jul 08, 2009
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Ricotez wrote:
I'm starting to get a headache. It's the first time spam has done that to me; usually it just makes my eyes bleed.

Then perhaps you should stop participating in it.