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The Serious Crime Act 2007, Section 44 (Intentionally encouraging or assisting an offence) wrote:
A person commits an offence if—
(a)he does an act capable of encouraging or assisting the commission of an offence; and
(b)he intends to encourage or assist its commission.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2007/27/section/44

By your own admission, you are doing "an act capable of encouraging or assisting the commission of an offense", and again by your own admission you "[intend] to encourage its commission".

If you actually expect that someone will do it, then Section 45 gets you as well.

The Serious Crime Act 2007, Section 45 (Encouraging or assisting an offence believing it will be committed) wrote:
A person commits an offence if—
(a)he does an act capable of encouraging or assisting the commission of an offence; and
(b)he believes—
(i)that the offence will be committed; and
(ii)that his act will encourage or assist its commission.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2007/27/section/45

Kizzycocoa wrote:
Serious offence? I'd hardly call learning and modding offences. Also, I'm not enabling it, as I'm not linking to it. I simply encourage it by word of mouth. These laws are meant for serious offences.

Just because you don't call it a serious offence doesn't mean the owners of the code won't call it as such.

Kizzycocoa wrote:
The law doesn't apply to me, I'm on the internet!

NotJomonay wrote:

Kizzycocoa wrote:
The law doesn't apply to me, I'm on the internet!

I'd not say that, but, that's part of the thing. this code is widespread. to prosecute individuals who downloaded it? that would be the most time/money-wasteful thing to do. I quite simply am not going to get in trouble, as to focus so small would be tedious, and basically pointless.

that said, I don't even HAVE the code. I'm merely advocating it's use. tell me, will VALVe bother to sue advocates, who do nothing but say "yeah, modding this would be amazing!"? Furthermore, am I wrong, regardless of the legality of doing such actions, that modding wouldn't improve the code?

What I'm doing would get me no more than a slap on the wrist, maximum. but I'm not even going to get that, as VALVe would be wasting money pursuing someone as uninvolved as me, who merely advocates.
that slap on the wrist is riddled in cross-country law issues, perhaps extradition issues, and lots of money in lawyers for both sides. it is simply not worth it for them to spend so much time/wages, when the outcome at max would be a moral lesson for me, which wouldn't even change my mind.

Kizzycocoa wrote:
Look at me I'm Julian Assange!

NotJomonay wrote:

Kizzycocoa wrote:
Look at me I'm Julian Assange!

I don't even get that one :T at no point in writing that post did I think "omg julien assange ohnoes".

I was thinking more on the internet side of extradition, with Topiary, who only voiced support of anons , but took no part in activity, as an EXTREME case of what VALVe could do. That seems more apt and down to earth.

but it's simply not in VALVe's nature, and it'd be a waste of time and money on their part.

EDIT: Why am I even arguing about this?

Pilchard123 wrote:
I am not a lawyer, but I think the body that would sue is the Crown, and VALVe has nothing to do with it.

welp, I'd not know. but regardless, it would cost a fair bit, and the case isn't solid enough to get me a guilty. I said the code will be modded to do amazing things, which is true. my modder is referencing to the code to do portals, while not copying. this is also true.

question is, how could I be sued. what's my "angle"? I encourage modding of it, and I know a close friend is referencing to it. is that worth a fine or court case of any kind? it's simply not enough reason to do anything.

I also believe the UK monarchy should be toppled, that americans should violently evict the government/bankers soon, and that abandonware is legal. all three of these, to an extent, could be seen as encouraging illegal actions. the first could lead to encouraging treason, the second, terrorism, and the third, copyright infringement.

how on earth do I get away with these crazy ideas that people dislike? how am I not in prison already?!?!??!1?! I am surely a menace to society for these slanderous treasonous crazy thoughts. take me to the guillotine plz.

Keklolzor wrote:
I didn't read everything, but 3 pages about unlocking a thread??
EDIT: 4 with me

yeah. we should dismiss all this "talking about illegal stuff and promoting it can get you sued". we're all adults. well, I know I am. and I know for a fact as teenagers, you know what you're saying. we can all take responsibility for our own actions.

my actions are advocating this new amazing change for the Portal modding community. specifically for new features of portals in the future. I see nothing wrong with this, and will stick by my actions on this regardless.

everyone in this thread wrote:
arguing on the internet is a meaningful activity that makes me feel better about myself