[WIP] The Fall

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Rivid31
152 Posts
Posted Oct 28, 2007
I've just uploaded my first map I've ever made with hammer to the downloads section. It's still a WIP, I have added no lights / cubemaps yet, and a couple of the textures still need slight tweaking. Let me know what you think about it, and if you find any bugs / easy solutions.

Screenshots:
Screenshot 1
Screenshot 2

Download Link: dload.php?action=file&file_id=59

Added dl link. ~espen180

Edit: Thanks espen.
I've updated the map to include lights and changed the second room, and added in extra fizzlers to make the flinging puzzles not incredibly easy.

Edit 2:
I THINK I've fixed this so the missing texture problem should be resolved, and people can actually play the map now... let me know if it's still bugged

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Ralph
59 Posts
Posted Nov 01, 2007
Replied 4 days later
I am not sure if it was intended or not, but I solved the energy ball redirection puzzle by using the cube from the first room
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Shmitz
167 Posts
Posted Nov 01, 2007
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Ralph wrote:
I am not sure if it was intended or not, but I solved the energy ball redirection puzzle by using the cube from the first room

Same.

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msleeper
4,095 Posts
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Posted Nov 01, 2007
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I solved the solution same as Shmitz and Ralph.

Also, I could not for the life of me solve the final fling puzzle. I just cannot seem to gain enough height or momentum or whatever to get going. I am going to post my full review in the Contest thread when I unlock it.

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Player1
212 Posts
Posted Nov 01, 2007
Replied 1 hour later
Hehe same experience here. Couldn't figure out how to get the energy ball into the catcher except by playing energy ball pong. And the final fling puzzle I simply couldn't make work, so I wallclimbed to the exit...
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Artesia
238 Posts
Posted Nov 01, 2007
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your map is very creative, the last jump, I couldn't shoot 2 portals on the floor fast enough and had to give up

another thing, your fizzle fields don't dissolve the box, so I completed the second part with the combine ball opening a portal on the wall just inside, running back jumping across to the box and button, portaling there, taking the box back in with me, then portaling up to the surface the ball hits, standing in the portal with the box, and diflecting the ball up to the catcher. I didn't need any of the other surfaces. while fixing the fizzle fields wont necessarily prevent this, when I jumped through with the box, I ran through one, and the box remained. it might make this harder to do

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Shmitz
167 Posts
Posted Nov 02, 2007
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Artesia wrote:
another thing, your fizzle fields don't dissolve the box, so I completed the second part with the combine ball opening a portal on the wall just inside, running back jumping across to the box and button, portaling there, taking the box back in with me, then portaling up to the surface the ball hits, standing in the portal with the box, and diflecting the ball up to the catcher. I didn't need any of the other surfaces. while fixing the fizzle fields wont necessarily prevent this, when I jumped through with the box, I ran through one, and the box remained. it might make this harder to do

Actually, when I did it, I didn't even go through the fizzle fields, I just held the box over my head and it was enough.

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Rivid31
152 Posts
Posted Nov 02, 2007
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Hmmm. Not the intended solution at all. It is possible to do the ball catcher puzzle without the box... and I guess I forgot to check the right flags in the fizzlers Oh well, try and solve the ball puzzle without the box =P

Also, I don't know why everybody has so much trouble with the final fling puzzle.... I'll post a vid of me doing it soon.

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roger federer
75 Posts
Posted Nov 02, 2007
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i might be missing something with the final puzzle, but it seems too fast.
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Rivid31
152 Posts
Posted Nov 02, 2007
Replied 22 minutes later
All you nay-sayers about my last puzzle. Heres a horribly grainy video of me doing it.
Here ya go
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roger federer
75 Posts
Posted Nov 02, 2007
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yeah that's how i thought it's supposed to be done, but its a bit intense.
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Rivid31
152 Posts
Posted Nov 02, 2007
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Yeah. I guess I didn't plan for it to be much of a "thinking" puzzle. The solution is pretty obvious, as theres nothing else really to do. More of a reflex puzzle. Maybe I made it a little bit too fast. At any rate, its doable...
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Player1
212 Posts
Posted Nov 02, 2007
Replied 6 hours later

Rivid31 wrote:
Yeah. I guess I didn't plan for it to be much of a "thinking" puzzle. The solution is pretty obvious, as theres nothing else really to do. More of a reflex puzzle. Maybe I made it a little bit too fast. At any rate, its doable...

Not for me. I knew that that was what I was supposed to do, but the momentum from the first drop can't send me over the first wall. And believe me I've tried!

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Rivid31
152 Posts
Posted Nov 02, 2007
Replied 6 hours later
Theres a slight trick to getting over the first wall... rhymes with couch
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espen180
307 Posts
Posted Nov 02, 2007
Replied 47 minutes later
Please post a video of you doing the whole thing.
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Rivid31
152 Posts
Posted Nov 02, 2007
Replied 37 minutes later
Here it is, a bit choppy but I'm sure you'll manage
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Player1
212 Posts
Posted Nov 02, 2007
Replied 45 minutes later
SPOILER WARNING: This is how I did it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzXM5mtor44

spoiler tags does not hide URLs!!!

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Rivid31
152 Posts
Posted Nov 02, 2007
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Yeah, I might re-release it without the box in it at all. Kind of defeats the second puzzle completely. We'll see if I feel like it.
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Menkhor
4 Posts
Posted Nov 22, 2007
Replied 20 days later
A nice map, I enjoyed it. Some good stumpers in there, and I like challenging maps.

I beat the second room without the cube. It's much simpler than it first appears to be. Here's how I did it:
At first I thought you had to bounce it off the angled corners, but then realized I could portal myself to to the ledge directly across from the ball launcher, then put a portal on the far wall (the top left of the ball launcher wall) as high as possible. After the ball has gone through, I simply replaced the portal on the same wall, but lower, which makes the ball higher when exiting the other portal (which is still facing the ball launcher). When done properly, the ball should bounce off the launcher directly up into the receptacle.

If this was not the intended solution, you've got to somehow make the ball last longer, and then I'll try it again using the slanted corners.

I do have a few qualms however. In the first room, it is not very clear at all what you are supposed to do. The only clue is the arrow pointing to the "target goo", but that is confused by the other two pointing to the later needed hole in the wall. You need to somehow hint at the solution better, or introduce the mechanic somehow.

In the second room, you really should fix it so people can't get the cube in there. Edit I see you fixed this by slamming the door shut as soon as you walk in the room? Nice.

And lastly, the flinging puzzle is simple, but very tough to do. Consider changing it to a combination puzzle, or making it about less reflex and more puzzle solving. It's not necessary though, just a suggestion.

Other than that, awesome job, one of my favs.

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Adair
213 Posts
Posted Nov 24, 2007
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OK, this map got me frustrated. Also at the time I am typing this the videos you posted with your solutions seem to be missing.

I like the first puzzle now that I know how to do it. ||Having to fling a sphere is fun, but I really solved the puzzle by accident the first time and it still took me half a minute to realize what I'd done.

By the way, the support column on the lift that rises from the goo had the black and pink design on it. (I downloaded it in the November contest entry map pack a few days ago, so nevermind if you already fixed this)||

The second puzzle I also solved by accident in the same way that Menkhor described. It did not seem to be the intended solution, but after retrying I couldn't find another way to solve it.

I liked the third part where you fling back and forth through the room. That is my favorite room in the map. I also like Player 1's speed-run approach to solving it.

And finally I had as much trouble as everyone else with the last puzzle. The concept was simple enough, but getting both portals on the ground and successfully dropping into one with the downward momentum is a lot to do after flying through the upper fizzler. I tried several times, eventually gave up and no-clipped up to sit on the wall in the fizzler grid. I have now successfully done it as intended, but its not something I would choose to do again. I suggest a longer drop after flinging through the upper fizzler and bring the bottom of the dividing wall in the middle of that room up just a bit so that its a little easier to get a portal near the far wall.

Thanks for the map, and for reading my long semi rantish feedback on it,
Adair