[SP] Level With Me

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Radiatoryang
2 Posts
Posted Dec 31, 2011
A Portal 2 "interview mod" sponsored by Rock Paper Shotgun. For more info: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/tag/level-with-me/

It has some puzzle-y puzzles, it has some conceptual puzzles, and it has some not-puzzles. Keep an open mind and thanks for reading / playing.

External: http://www.moddb.com/mods/level-with-me/downloads:** 0??B

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inax
23 Posts
Posted Dec 31, 2011
Replied 2 hours later
what a shitty map
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benvent
154 Posts
Posted Dec 31, 2011
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Strange set of maps. Only 1 that involved any thinking. The rest was like WTF. It reminded me of the old movie "A clockwork Orange". Most of it is a waste of time.
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Djinndrache
1,442 Posts
Posted Jan 01, 2012
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This is not Portal style. Keep trying.
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lifeson99
102 Posts
Posted Jan 01, 2012
Replied 11 hours later
We should be fair to you - this does have one EXCELLENT room in it, which is the final part of the first Map - the Meat Pack. That was a really great puzzle IMO.

I agree with everyone else on the other maps (those before that one), unfortunately - just way too simplistic.
But that one magical room included made it worth it to me. I loved the way that cube was locked into the cylinder and the overall Disney-like appearance of the room itself. It was sort of like a high-tech Rapunzel's Tower. The garish Yellows and Oranges somehow fit that room.

Bottom line, I would highly recommend this to anyone but would also recommend they skip through to that one room. To be honest, I have not yet played the rest as I got stuck in the next room for MeathPack_LWN. It has some odd way of getting through the door that is not apparent to me. The sign on the wal clearly says to "Press" the button to "Open" the door - but the button Press does not such thing.

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benvent
154 Posts
Posted Jan 01, 2012
Replied 54 minutes later
@lifeson99- I would not recommend playing something that you have not completed yourself.
That single map I agree is the only one worth playing. The rest after that suck. To open the door you need to drop the open door sign into the computer screen image.
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andyb
257 Posts
Posted Jan 01, 2012
Replied 9 minutes later
I started playing this when first released and finally got the guys to allow quick saves as I had given up on the meatpack map that is actually a great challenge.I should try it again now that quick save is allowed.I'd like to see a video of that one map thou as I never did figure it out before I gave up
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lifeson99
102 Posts
Posted Jan 01, 2012
Replied 1 hour later
benvent; you're probably. . . you're probably right. I was trying to recommend the one complex puzzle, and since the reviews were so bad I did not want to finish the rest. I just didn't want people thinking the whole things was bad since it has that one bright spot.

Anyway I finished the rest - several consecutive, identical rooms where you press a button and then exit through the door, followed by a fake room . . . why on earth create that ?
Seems to be a waste of time for the player.

It would have been best to release the one good map as a standalone and delete the rest.

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Radiatoryang
2 Posts
Posted Jan 02, 2012
Replied 11 hours later
A question: must every Portal 2 map have difficult puzzles in them?

The last chamber of Chapter 1 is intended to show that, yes, it's fully within my capability to design something difficult, and I chose not to do so for most of the mod. Is that a valid way to design? And if not, why not?

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benvent
154 Posts
Posted Jan 02, 2012
Replied 10 hours later
Answer: No, Every Portal 2 map does not have to have difficult puzzles. But, it must have puzzles. Everyone knows how to press a button and walk through a door. No challenge = no fun.
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Pitkakorvaa
200 Posts
Posted Jan 02, 2012
Replied 1 hour later
@benvent
Stop acting like an ass. If you don't like this, then say it nicely. Or then don't say anything.
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PCdoc
245 Posts
Posted Jan 02, 2012
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The 1st room looked great - just needed a puzzle.
The 2nd room with the funnel running across the top was "OK" but needed more complexity
The 3rd room was innovative and a lot of fun - kudos. One thing - did you notice that the cubes are non-solid ? I could not stand on them and I could walk right through them.
The repetitious "press button, exit, dead Portal girls in the pit, etc" over and over again got to be a pain.
The puzzle with the "Follow Me" Franken-Turrets - looked very interesting. BUT it just faded away.
The shaking, electric chamber of death looked very cool but it faded away too. These puzzles fading away were a bit maddening.

Interesting environments that need to be converted into puzzles, one excellent puzzle, and a series of fake stuff that should be dumped..

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KennKong
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Posted Jan 04, 2012
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lifeson99 wrote:
To be honest, I have not yet played the rest as I got stuck in the next room for MeathPack_LWN. It has some odd way of getting through the door that is not apparent to me. The sign on the wal clearly says to "Press" the button to "Open" the door - but the button Press does not such thing.

I think you're talking about the room with the Hammer screenshots. By the door, there is a sign on the floor. Pick it up, and carry it to the entity property screen and drop it on the trigger field. It's a meta-game aspect, using Hammer within the game to make the game work. I have read the interviews, but I don't recall them discussing this particular idea.

The articles are about level design, and the idea was to use Portal to illustrate the discussion. The "Level with me" chapter is the result. Since the level designers had little or no experience with Portal, the result is rather un-Portal-like.

In the first chapter, the room with reversed gravity for the cube was a novel idea. The room with the vertical funnel was just a pain in the neck because it required hitting key portal surfaces from a distance through a lot of visual clutter.

I played through the whole thing once, and didn't think it was a waste of my time, but I also immediately deleted it, and won't miss it one bit. 2/5 from me.