Wheatley shouldn't just be floating around in space.

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NeXT-Gen_P0rtal
74 Posts
Posted Aug 24, 2012
He really shouldn't. The portal you shoot on the moon has to be facing earth, even if it is at an angle. Assuming that the vacuum force was enough to launch Wheatley free from the moon's gravity (which I doubt) he shoud've been launched into a decaying orbit around Earth. Remember, all Aperture Science Technologies remain fully operational up to 4000 degrees Kelvin, so he would survive reentry into the atmosphere. Actually landing safely? I doubt it. Also, even if he were to be flung out into space, why would the Space Core be orbiting him? They have the same hardware. And another thought; The sudden pressure loss Chell must have experienced would have been enormous when she was sucked through the portal. It should have killed her, or at least given her an extremely bad case of the bends.

Any other thoughts on this? I might add more later, but I have to go to bed now.

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UsCobra11
272 Posts
Posted Aug 24, 2012
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Unrealistic endings = Profit

But really, do we really have to argue about if it's realistic or not? Would you rather just have Chell press a button and blow up Wheatley then the game ends?

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portal2tenacious
393 Posts
Posted Aug 24, 2012
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UsCobra11 wrote:
Unrealistic endings = Profit

But really, do we really have to argue about if it's realistic or not? Would you rather just have Chell press a button and blow up Wheatley then the game ends?

Well...

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ChickenMobile
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Posted Aug 24, 2012
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Putting a portal on the moon and going into space was awesome! Who doesn't agree?
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NeXT-Gen_P0rtal
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Posted Aug 24, 2012
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ChickenMobile wrote:
Putting a portal on the moon and going into space was awesome! Who doesn't agree?

Yes, it was awesome! But I don't like that it was a scripted video. I shot the orange portal on the moon, no blue! Also, please don't tell me that I'm the only one who screamed "NO!!" and tried to grab Wheatley with my own hands when GLaDOS let him go?> UsCobra11 wrote:

But really, do we really have to argue about if it's realistic or not? Would you rather just have Chell press a button and blow up Wheatley then the game ends?

Of course we have to argue if it's realistic or not!

I don't know. I'm envisioning a Portal 3 (whether Valve makes it or it's a mod, I don't care) where Chell has found a gravity gun (that is from the game "Half-Life" isn't it? And I think I heard somewhere that Portal and Half-Life intertwine?), and is using it to - I don't know, stuff - and Wheatley comes falling out of the sky (of course, screaming "CATCHMECATCHMECATCHMECATCHMECATCHMECATCHMECATCHMECATCHME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"), and she uses it to slow his fall and save him. Then, with the help of, well, anything that Chell has found left on Earth (wasn't there some alien invasion?) they march off to Aperture to defeat GLaDOS once and for all.

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FourthReaper
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Posted Aug 24, 2012
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ChickenMobile wrote:
Putting a portal on the moon and going into space was awesome! Who doesn't agree?

Wheatley.

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NeXT-Gen_P0rtal
74 Posts
Posted Aug 24, 2012
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FourthReaper wrote:
ChickenMobile wrote:

Putting a portal on the moon and going into space was awesome! Who doesn't agree?

Wheatley.

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UsCobra11
272 Posts
Posted Aug 24, 2012
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FourthReaper wrote:
ChickenMobile wrote:

Putting a portal on the moon and going into space was awesome! Who doesn't agree?

Wheatley.

LOL

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MasterLagger
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Posted Aug 24, 2012
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Yeah, I get where NeXT-Gen_P0rtal is coming from. I mean Wheatley is just as hilarious as GLaDOS is and he ends up gets sucked into space for nothing. His incompetence almost destroyed the facility, but the body he was connected to made him crazier. I think Wheatley deserves at least one more game considering the all the times he helped Chell out.

The part where Portal and Half-Life "intertwine" as you put it, is the Borealis appearing in HL2 Ep.2. The dock the Borealis was in is in Portal 2 in the underground area.
Wheatley's incompetence will destroy the Combine!

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Yenwood
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Posted Aug 24, 2012
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NeXT-Gen_P0rtal wrote:
He really shouldn't. The portal you shoot on the moon has to be facing earth, even if it is at an angle. Assuming that the vacuum force was enough to launch Wheatley free from the moon's gravity (which I doubt) he shoud've been launched into a decaying orbit around Earth. Remember, all Aperture Science Technologies remain fully operational up to 4000 degrees Kelvin, so he would survive reentry into the atmosphere. Actually landing safely? I doubt it. Also, even if he were to be flung out into space, why would the Space Core be orbiting him? They have the same hardware. And another thought; The sudden pressure loss Chell must have experienced would have been enormous when she was sucked through the portal. It should have killed her, or at least given her an extremely bad case of the bends.

He was launched out into space. It doesn't take much effort to "ignore gravity." Earth also doesn't have a large atmosphere, (in relative terms) so he won't be effected by gravity just because Earth is somewhere in the radius of where he was launched (I was wrong about this). Space core wouldn't of been able to interrupt Wheatley if he weren't orbiting him. Also, it would be a bad ending if you died at the climax of the game. Bad way to make a game, heh.

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Vordwann
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Posted Aug 25, 2012
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Yenwood wrote:
He was launched out into space. It doesn't take much effort to "ignore gravity." Earth also doesn't have a large atmosphere, (in relative terms) so he won't be effected by gravity just because Earth is somewhere in the radius of where he was launched. Space core wouldn't of been able to interrupt Wheatley if he weren't orbiting him. Also, it would be a bad ending if you died at the climax of the game. Bad way to make a game, heh.

The size of Earth's atmosphere has no relationship whatsoever with its gravitational effects. Also, the only reason that the moon orbits at the distance it does is that it is massive enough to exert its gravitational force on the Earth from farther than objects such as man-made satellites, which orbit very nearby. Wheatley has virtually no gravitational field compared to the Earth, or for that matter most other objects on the Earth. So, depending on the angle that he was shot off the moon from, he could have completely missed Earth, or hit it. It's a bit difficult to tell from where the moon portal was placed.

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Brainstone
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Posted Aug 25, 2012
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NeXT-Gen_P0rtal wrote:
But I don't like that it was a scripted video.

I decompiled sp_a4_finale4. It wasn't. In fact, the whole moon was rotated 180 degrees and directly under your feet. The floor you are walking is 2 units thin, and the portal is an actual hole surrounded by a particle effect.

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Another Bad Pun
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Posted Aug 25, 2012
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Wheatley was pushed the other way by Solar Wind.

Duh.

Im joking, stupid

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NeXT-Gen_P0rtal
74 Posts
Posted Aug 26, 2012
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Another Bad Pun wrote:
Wheatley was pushed the other way by Solar Wind.

Duh.

Im joking, stupid

Of course. That explains it! Just to be clear, you do know what solar wind is?

Brainstone wrote:
NeXT-Gen_P0rtal wrote:

But I don't like that it was a scripted video.

I decompiled sp_a4_finale4. It wasn't. In fact, the whole moon was rotated 180 degrees and directly under your feet. The floor you are walking is 2 units thin, and the portal is an actual hole surrounded by a particle effect.

Yes, I knew that, what I was mostly talking about was the turret opera and the field of wheat.

Vordwann wrote:
...depending on the angle that he was shot off the moon from, he could have completely missed Earth, or hit it. It's a bit difficult to tell from where the moon portal was placed.

Judging from the sparkle on the moon when you shoot the portal, I'd say that Wheatley (again, assuming he escaped the moon's gravity) that he'd be launched into a decaying orbit around earth, before re-entering the atmosphere and most likely sinking into the ocean, or smashing into bits on land.

MasterLagger wrote:
Yeah, I get where NeXT-Gen_P0rtal is coming from. I mean Wheatley is just as hilarious as GLaDOS is and he ends up gets sucked into space for nothing. His incompetence almost destroyed the facility, but the body he was connected to made him crazier. I think Wheatley deserves at least one more game considering the all the times he helped Chell out.

The part where Portal and Half-Life "intertwine" as you put it, is the Borealis appearing in HL2 Ep.2. The dock the Borealis was in is in Portal 2 in the underground area.
Wheatley's incompetence will destroy the Combine!

Well said.

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Another Bad Pun
516 Posts
Posted Aug 26, 2012
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NeXT-Gen_P0rtal wrote:
Of course. That explains it! Just to be clear, you do know what solar wind is?

Maybe the pun wasn't obvious enough

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NeXT-Gen_P0rtal
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Posted Aug 26, 2012
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Another Bad Pun wrote:
NeXT-Gen_P0rtal wrote:

Of course. That explains it! Just to be clear, you do know what solar wind is?

Maybe the pun wasn't obvious enough

Maybe so.... But seriously, do you know that there is actually a phenomena called solar wind, and what it is?

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FelixGriffin
2,680 Posts
Posted Sep 08, 2012
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But how does pressure work through portals? I mean, they're completely destroying the laws of thermodynamics already. Why not other physics?
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SpAM_CAN
103 Posts
Posted Sep 09, 2012
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Wheatley can't be too far from Earth. I mean, his VGA was able to be launched to him pretty quickly considering the rocket only took about three seconds to get to him.

And then it hit him. And he was knocked out of orbit.

There, the Spike VGAs fixed your physics. You're welcome.

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FelixGriffin
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Posted Sep 09, 2012
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But he didn't win the VGA. Maybe they had a fake one to throw at him whether he won or not, launched beforehand?
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krishiv2
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Posted Jul 12, 2013
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we could not press the button because of the bombs placed near the glass panels.If you go near it,it would be KABBOOM!! . the only way to press the button is to remove the bombs.