zivi7 wrote:
Click on "SmartEdit" in the upper right corner. New buttons will appear.

YOU JUST BLEW MY MIND!!!! O_O

And it looks like I am getting more problems piled on top of the ones i had.

all I need is a portal2 turret that can repair itself, and fire at other turrets. I don't want combine turrets

So you don't have new problems ontop of anything, there are just a few new obstacles in the way while a good part of what you wanted is already accomplished.

To do: fix random skin (or live with it as it just appears painted but doesn't act bouncy), make it hurt the player (if that is even needed), find a way to make it easier to place it upright again.

zivi7 wrote:
Yeah, in Hammer. But it will be a Portal turret ingame.

...same problem...error box

EDIT: nevermind, entity got reset somehow, it works now. WEIRD THING THOUGH!! using a backwards turret model makes it fire backwards AND forwards. It is literally firing in both directions now. But for some reason it wont kill the enemy turrets like i wanted. I tried a hidden func_breakable and it wont even break, I tried a func_physbox but it always breaks up into gibs despite not having any set.

any ideas on that one?

Fracture wrote:
But for some reason it wont kill the enemy turrets like i wanted.

What did you want as a result? When I tried using the normal turret model, the bullets just pushed the enemy turret till it tipped over.

edit: My combine turret with the normal - not backwards - Portal turret model destroys a func_breakable with the FX amount set to 0. So if needed you should be able to get a different destruction triggered this way.

Now that it fires in both directions, it seems that test element i was going for is going to change somehow

You could hex edit a turret/backwards turret to have all of its skins as skin 0, so all the random skins are the same.

If you don't want it to fire a certain way, put a block bullets brush parented to the turret.

CamBen wrote:
To fix the skin issue,
CamBen wrote:

You could hex edit a turret/backwards turret to have all of its skins as skin 0, so all the random skins are the same.

If you don't want it to fire a certain way, put a block bullets brush parented to the turret.

I'd go for BLOCK_LOS; block_bullets will block bullets; but they'll be fired; with block los they won't even be fired

So apparently this whole time what i thought was the backwards combine/portal backwards turret firing in both directions turned out to be the enemy returning fire and hitting me. The backwards turret was just showing the muzzle flash it normally did to start off with.

new problem i encountered is when this makeshift turret falls over it spams an error sound, screaming fiddlesticks nonstop! the console mentions this.

CSoundEmitterSystemBase::GetParametersForSound: No such sound NPC_FloorTurret.AlarmPing
CSoundEmitterSystemBase::GetParametersForSound: No such sound Error

FelixGriffin wrote:
Define that sound to NULL.wav in a new soundscript, that'll disable it.

I think that shouldn't be necessary and that something else is wrong. I don't get the fiddlesticks error. The turret (doesn't matter if normal or backwards - though personally I wouldn't use backwards because of the firing animation pointing in the wrong direction) tips over, makes the alarm sound, fires a bit and shuts down.

Did you place a normal npc_portal_turret_floor in the map so the game could preload particles and sounds from that one to use on the fake one?

Edit: I'm going to just start from scratch by removing all turrets. perhaps i can execute the friendly turrets firing by keeping it disabled, but have strategically placed triggers and relays that tell the turret to firebullets at specific physboxes, exploding enemy turrets, and turn off the firing triggers.

EDIT: OMG WORKS PERFECTLY, The backwards turret never spazes out when knocked over and the triggers and filters set off the backwards turret perfectly. It even aims correctly. It may get a little tedious setting up triggers and filters, but when isn't hammer tedious? This is everything i need. Thanks for all the information

Combine ones never burn, Portal ones only burn when upright (if they're shut off they never will again).

I can say for certain that I have destroyed many turrets using lasers that were both active, and deactivated, standing, and laying down, gagged, ungagged, skin, no skin, normal model, defective, boxed, and backwards.

The only time they did not explode was when they were disabled, via input and/or flagged as inactive. They just smoldered for awhile until the flame died out I even did a test map to see if this was true. I just wanted to see if that was normal.