Having problems with the Old Aperture Science cliffwall.

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Jetamo
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#36280
Posted Jun 01, 2011

Basically, as you can see in this picture

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4379567/oldscie ... ce0009.jpg
the texture looks rather fugly. I don't get how Valve have managed to make it look so good in the game. So I could do with a bit of help figuring out how to make it look nicer.

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msleeper
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#36284
Posted Jun 01, 2011
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They used displacements, which are an art and science in and of themselves.
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Jetamo
9 Posts
#36313
Posted Jun 01, 2011
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...Yes, but even displaced it looks ugly.
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msleeper
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#36314
Posted Jun 01, 2011
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Have you tried actually painting the displacement, or did you just turn it into a displacement and expect it to magically look like a natural rock face?
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Jetamo
9 Posts
#36325
Posted Jun 01, 2011
Replied 31 minutes later
By painting you mean making it ridgey etc, right?

Still looked ugly as sin.

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Idolon
417 Posts
#36329
Posted Jun 01, 2011
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Displacements are one of the hardest geometry things to do in Hammer IMO, and it takes a long time to get them to look right. I still can't.
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ZeronFX
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#36331
Posted Jun 01, 2011
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Jetamo wrote:
By painting you mean making it ridgey etc, right?

Still looked ugly as sin.

No. Sometimes displacement textures have 1 or more(?) "blends". The "Paint Alpha" mode of the displacement editor will blend the texture into its secondary texture.

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msleeper
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#36333
Posted Jun 01, 2011
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I did mean paint the geometry to make it look like "ridgey".

Did you make the entire wall one giant displacement? Don't do that. Split it up into sections. The more brush faces, the more detailed it can get.

Like Idolon said, it's not something that you are going to make look beautiful after 3 minutes.

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kwp21 pitts
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#36344
Posted Jun 01, 2011
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http://vimeo.com/11341062

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Jetamo
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#36441
Posted Jun 02, 2011
Replied 11 hours later
Look, I'm not a newbie to hammer, what I mean to say is the texture itself is ugly as sin.
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NocturnalGhost
200 Posts
#36445
Posted Jun 02, 2011
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Which texture is that, and where was it used in the game?
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Jetamo
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#36478
Posted Jun 02, 2011
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blend rockdirt, and I've taken it from sp_a3_transition
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msleeper
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#36526
Posted Jun 02, 2011
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Maybe invert the texture alpha mask, it might be using the wrong of the two textures. But if it's the same texture used in the fall part itself and you still think it's ugly, I'm not sure what to say.
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Omnicoder
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#36538
Posted Jun 02, 2011
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Hammer renders displacement textures rainbow, ignore it.
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