Official PROOF that Cave is NOT Chell's father

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FelixGriffin
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Posted Dec 23, 2013
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You didn't quote it exactly, but your description of the source resembled one of the more famous lines.
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ultracrafter2004
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Posted May 14, 2014
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I don't believe that. I think that chell IS cave's daughter, but, raising a child would have got in his way of science so, he gave her to another aperture science employee (possibly doug, because why else would he re-document chell as #1? He would have had a soft spot for her) chell wouldn't know, so she would refer to cave as "mr Johnson". This is the most likely theory, as, well it just makes sense.
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srs bsnss
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Posted May 15, 2014
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ultracrafter2004 wrote:
I don't believe that. I think that chell IS cave's daughter, but, raising a child would have got in his way of science so, he gave her to another aperture science employee (possibly doug, because why else would he re-document chell as #1? He would have had a soft spot for her) chell wouldn't know, so she would refer to cave as "mr Johnson". This is the most likely theory, as, well it just makes sense.

Actually, he moved her to #1 because he knew she'd have the best chance at defeating GLaDOS.

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ultracrafter2004
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Posted May 15, 2014
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Oh really?
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ultracrafter2004
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Posted May 15, 2014
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Oh really? WRONG FACT! LOLZ, he quoted " oh, she has a better chance then you think" didn't mention GLaDOS though, did he? WHY NOT, YOU ASK? She already killed her, didn't she?
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FelixGriffin
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Posted May 15, 2014
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No, she didn't. We see Rattman change the data in a flashback--that's why he can hear GLaDOS talking to him through the intercom. It happened before Portal 1 started.
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srs bsnss
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Posted May 16, 2014
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ultracrafter2004 wrote:
Oh really?

Yes really. > FelixGriffin wrote:

We see Rattman change the data in a flashback--that's why he can hear GLaDOS talking to him through the intercom. It happened before Portal 1 started.

This is seen here. Also, sorry to put you on blast for semantics but 'wrong fact' would actually still mean what I said was correct.

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ultracrafter2004
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Posted May 16, 2014
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Ok, ok . It was a possibly and a why else, I didn't want a million replies, let's just call this "employee" mr.employee
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kyleprotecX
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Posted Jul 18, 2014
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If Caroline is chells mother. Then when she was turned into glados why did she need personality cores to regulate her behaviour because if Caroline was caves wife why would she turn bad when put into glados? And also if she was chells mother why would she make her do testing. And try to kill her at the end. Unless when she was put into glados she lost her memory or something. But again at the end of portal 2 she delete's Caroline why would she do that?
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tile
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Posted Jul 20, 2014
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kyleprotecX wrote:
If Caroline is chells mother. Then when she was turned into glados why did she need personality cores to regulate her behaviour because if Caroline was caves wife why would she turn bad when put into glados? And also if she was chells mother why would she make her do testing. And try to kill her at the end. Unless when she was put into glados she lost her memory or something. But again at the end of portal 2 she delete's Caroline why would she do that?

...you..um...played the gsme and payed attention, right? caroline DID lose all human memory when put into the computer. and it's aperture; their AI tech has a lot of problems. remember in portal 1 how glados' voice glitched or fizzled out in some parts? My theory as to why she went from her portal 1 crazy self to her portal 2 self is because chell destroyed all that made her personality up, leaving p2 glados as a purely intellectual machine with very little emotion left. no curiosity, no morality, no desire (cake core was desire) and no hatred. the only emotion glados has any longer is whatever is hard-wired into the system.

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Ciirulean
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Posted Jul 20, 2014
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Did you actually just say that GLaDOS has less personality in Portal 2 than in Portal.
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tile
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Posted Jul 21, 2014
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Ciirulean wrote:
Did you actually just say that GLaDOS has less personality in Portal 2 than in Portal.

yes. If you think about it, glados seems really just...bored. every line she says up until the first boss is said in a very bored tone, accept for when she's proud of her newly re-made facility or when she is talking about you REAL suprise. in portal 1, she starts out sounding like a pre-recorded message and gets crazier and crazier in a subtle-yet-noticable way.

so i guess both versions have equal amounts, but the personality is more interesting in portal 1.

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quaternary
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Posted Jul 22, 2014
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It makes sense that she would be bored - after all, she had to relive you killing her, again and again... and then she finds you still alive and ready to kill her again (for all she knows.) Yaaaay.

She also should have less personality in P1 - I mean, with the cores and all that. Right?

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GamerGeek
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Posted May 11, 2017
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Again, this is an old thread, but this whole subforum is, so...
Although we cannot extrapolate from Cara Mia that Chell is GLaDOS's daughter, as languages like Chinese use "brother" to mean a male around your age, but it is implied that there is some connection with these lines

Quote:
Oh thank god, you're alright.
You know, being Caroline taught me a valuable lesson. I thought you were my greatest enemy. When all along you were my best friend.
The surge of emotion that shot through me when I saved your life taught me an even more valuable lesson: where Caroline lives in my brain.

Leading us to a similar conclusion: Chell is related to Caroline
We know that even if Cave was Chell's biological father, that he was not her paternal father, according to the BYDTWD poster (mentioned by the OP) that refers to them as seperate people. Although we can theorize a relation between Chell and Rattman (I saw one theory in particular stating that Chell was the Child of Chell and Rattmann (no cloning or time travel)) or even that she is Greg's crazy daughter (disproved by stating that it isn't in the same universe), she may well be daughter of an unknown or unimportant scientist, or even an Orphan.
However: Chell's last name was redacted (for good reason), so we can theoroize that she is daughter of an important scientist, likely Cave, Caroline, or Rattmann, and her name was redacted so Cave wouldn't find out.
Somewhere in the game, GLaDOS mentions this

Quote:
I'm going through the list of test subjects in cryogenic storage. I managed to find two with your last name. A man and a woman. So that's interesting. It's a small world.

Which is her implying that they are her parents, but they could be siblings, unrelated, or GLaDOS lied, which seems particularly evident considering that Chell's last name is redacted.
It may also be notable that Cave Johnson is blond, while Chell is dark haired, so either she isn't related to Cave or she just inherited from Caroline.

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jack980517
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Posted May 16, 2017
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Rattmann couldn't have been Chell's father. The Lab Rat comics implies that Rattmann picked Chell because her files say that she is stubborn and never gives up on any occasion. If he picked her because she's his daughter, he wouldn't need to check her files to find out.
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GamerGeek
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Posted May 17, 2017
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jack980517 wrote:
Rattmann couldn't have been Chell's father. The Lab Rat comics implies that Rattmann picked Chell because her files say that she is stubborn and never gives up on any occasion. If he picked her because she's his daughter, he wouldn't need to check her files to find out.

Then she may as well be an orphan

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