Personality Sphere as a Safety Cube?!

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CaretCaret
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Posted Jul 27, 2012
So I'm trying to make a custom personality sphere act like a safety cube in multiplayer. Having it being able to activate ball-buttons and bouncing if painted. And it should work in coop.

So... I tried parenting a prop_dynamic(custom sphere model) to a prop_weighted_cube(ball) and then I set the ball to Dont Render. And all was well. Then I tried it in coop :notwant:
And in coop when a player picks it up the ball gets rendered again.

I thought maybe I can change the model of the ball to an invisible one, and I did so using vscript, but then I couldnt pick it up any more.

Help! I'm all out of ideas :sad:

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FourthReaper
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Posted Jul 27, 2012
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I think this is one of those times when you're better off faking the buttons it can press. So just make a prop_dynamic and when it hits the button trigger, play the right sound and animation for it.

It sucks, but it can look pretty good if you put in some effort, I guess. :wink:

By the way, doesn't this horrify the act of throwing the 'cube' in a fizzler of slime pit? :eek:

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CaretCaret
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Posted Jul 27, 2012
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But I can't pick up a prop_dynamic. And also it wouldn't get painted.

Well I was gonna solve the horror of killing the sphere with just not being able to put it into a fizzler, having a collision in the way. But I had to scrap that idea too cause it also didnt work in coop. But then I thought that since Atlas and P-body get killed and reassembled, why not the sphere.

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FourthReaper
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Posted Jul 27, 2012
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CaretCaret wrote:
But I can't pick up a prop_dynamic. And also it wouldn't get painted.

Eh, I meant a prop_physics, sorry. So... prop_physics_paintable anyone?

CaretCaret wrote:
Well I was gonna solve the horror of killing the sphere with just not being able to put it into a fizzler, having a collision in the way. But I had to scrap that idea too cause it also didnt work in coop. But then I thought that since Atlas and P-body get killed and reassembled, why not the sphere.

Fair enough. :thumbup:

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CaretCaret
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Posted Jul 27, 2012
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FourthReaper wrote:
Eh, I meant a prop_physics, sorry. So... prop_physics_paintable anyone?

No animations.

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FourthReaper
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Posted Jul 27, 2012
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CaretCaret wrote:
FourthReaper wrote:

Eh, I meant a prop_physics, sorry. So... prop_physics_paintable anyone?

No animations.

Crap. Prop_dynamic parented to a prop_physics_paintable then? Though at this point I'm just throwing whild idea's around. Might not be the best one, this.

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CaretCaret
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Posted Jul 27, 2012
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FourthReaper wrote:
CaretCaret wrote:

FourthReaper wrote:

Eh, I meant a prop_physics, sorry. So... prop_physics_paintable anyone?

No animations.

Crap. Prop_dynamic parented to a prop_physics_paintable then? Though at this point I'm just throwing whild idea's around. Might not be the best one, this.

Ha! Yeah, I just tried this, and for some reason it kinda worked :O well.. with a few haxy adjustments.
Now I just have to fake the buttons, and that shouldnt be too hard.
:notworthy: Thank you for getting me to the solution!

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FourthReaper
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Posted Jul 27, 2012
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CaretCaret wrote:
FourthReaper wrote:

Crap. Prop_dynamic parented to a prop_physics_paintable then? Though at this point I'm just throwing whild idea's around. Might not be the best one, this.

Ha! Yeah, I just tried this, and for some reason it kinda worked :O well.. with a few haxy adjustments.
Now I just have to fake the buttons, and that shouldnt be too hard.
:notworthy: Thank you for getting me to the solution!

I'm glad I could help. Now, go do some magic, you. :wink:
PS: if this is another contest submission I'm being really stupid, throwing in my own windows. :notwant:

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CaretCaret
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Posted Jul 27, 2012
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haha ^^
Nah, Im not gonna enter in the contest with this, or at all.

Feels weirdly motivational to have spent many hours on this problem and then solving it... hmmm...

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FourthReaper
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Posted Jul 27, 2012
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I get what you mean. Best of luck to the map. :wink:
(And too bad it's coop because I don't normally play coop maps...)
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Alexander Bell
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Posted Jul 27, 2012
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This thread has inspired me to make one of these balls in one of my single player maps, would you mind if I stole your idea?
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CaretCaret
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Posted Jul 28, 2012
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Alexander Bell wrote:
This thread has inspired me to make one of these balls in one of my single player maps, would you mind if I stole your idea?

Well... a bit but, I don't think I should stop you from using it. Go ahead. :thumbup:

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FourthReaper
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Posted Jul 28, 2012
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Alexander Bell wrote:
This thread has inspired me to make one of these balls in one of my single player maps, would you mind if I stole your idea?

Just a quick question though, how much stuff other people came up with do you intend to replicate? I mean, with josepezdj's elevators you already lose a sense of creativity, of ingenuity. And unless you use this personality construct for story purpose, it will also contribute to a creativity-lacking map. (Besides, I think it's safe to say that the rest of us can now expect a lot of how-to questions.)

So, my question is, don't you ever feel like you want to create something YOU made, something YOU came up with? Not trying to offend you, I'm just surprised. I wouldn't want to reuse someone's map design, no matter how good it is. And this sphere is also an aesthetic element, most likely. But that's just my $0,02. :confused:

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FelixGriffin
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Posted Jul 28, 2012
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You could also just use an npc_personality_sphere, then SetModel it to your core. Or, the hackier way to do it, is to make a turret, use the Unused model trick to change the model, then have it be Used As Actor. It's really strange, but it gets you a sort of prop_dynamic_physics.

By the way, FourthReaper, I agree with that, but this idea in particular has been used before. I remember one community spotlight (can't remember the name) which involved escorting a personality core through a level to put it into a socket at the end, using tractorbeams and bridges to avoid fizzlers.

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RubbishyUsername
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Posted Jul 28, 2012
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But the npc_personality_core doesn't weigh down buttons, I believe.
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FelixGriffin
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Posted Jul 28, 2012
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True. You'd need a trigger.
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CaretCaret
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Posted Jul 28, 2012
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RubbishyUsername wrote:
But the npc_personality_core doesn't weigh down buttons, I believe.

And it cant be painted. And when I tried it I couldn't pick it up any more

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FourthReaper
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Posted Jul 28, 2012
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CaretCaret wrote:
RubbishyUsername wrote:

But the npc_personality_core doesn't weigh down buttons, I believe.

And it cant be painted. And when I tried it I couldn't pick it up any more

Strange, that last part. But a turret used as actor (hacky but fine) should be just fine. Really tricky, all this, though.

If you don't need too much interaction I'd just go with the 'prop_dynamic parented to a prop_physics_paintable' idea. :boring:

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Alexander Bell
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Posted Jul 28, 2012
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FourthReaper wrote:
Alexander Bell wrote:

This thread has inspired me to make one of these balls in one of my single player maps, would you mind if I stole your idea?

Just a quick question though, how much stuff other people came up with do you intend to replicate? I mean, with josepezdj's elevators you already lose a sense of creativity, of ingenuity. And unless you use this personality construct for story purpose, it will also contribute to a creativity-lacking map. (Besides, I think it's safe to say that the rest of us can now expect a lot of how-to questions.)

So, my question is, don't you ever feel like you want to create something YOU made, something YOU came up with? Not trying to offend you, I'm just surprised. I wouldn't want to reuse someone's map design, no matter how good it is. And this sphere is also an aesthetic element, most likely. But that's just my $0,02. :confused:

I like the sound of it, and I meant the concept in general, not a core as a ball specifically.