Doomsday192's Handheld Energy ball shooter thing

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pestchamber
614 Posts
Posted May 18, 2009

Yeah Doomsday192 was talking about including a weapon shooting energy balls in his map. I believe he was gonna use the AR2 from half-life 2 which would not have worked. (Please note i'm not sufre if he was gonna do it this way) Now i found a way to shoot balls that actually works (activates the catchers) And i would ask you if you think this could make a good map, and if it would be wrong because doomsday192 came up with the idea first. Please tell me. I can do the same thing with a rocket but i can't find any uses for it except destroying floor turrets.

jrlauer wrote:
:wink:

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Remmiz
631 Posts
Posted May 18, 2009
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Wut
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jrlauer
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Posted May 18, 2009
Replied 21 minutes later

pestchamber wrote:
Yeah Doomsday192 was talking about including a weapon shooting energy balls in his map. I believe he was gonna use the AR2 from half-life 2 which would not have worked. (Please note i'm not sufre if he was gonna do it this way) Now i found a way to shoot balls that actually works (activates the catchers) And i would ask you if you think this could make a good map, and if it would be wrong because doomsday192 came up with the idea first. Please tell me. I can do the same thing with a rocket but i can't find any uses for it except destroying floor turrets.

:wink: :wink:

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pestchamber
614 Posts
Posted May 18, 2009
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jrlauer wrote:
:wink: :wink:

Sorry i've been wanting to do that for a long time now :p

Ok so really simlpy to remmiz cause he didn't get it:
Would it be wrong to steal an idea even though they never FINISHED it or RELEASED any beta/WIP versions?

EDIT:
I only wanna make this cause i find his idea interesting, And i think some nice puzzles COULD be made.

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kizzycocoa
975 Posts
Posted May 18, 2009
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I had the same exact thought with the "ice cube" shown in a different map :confused:

generally, try to see if you can contact them and ask. that would be the way I'd do it.
however, you could just try to make it and use it.

I'd choose the first option. I'm very polite :razz:

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HMW
806 Posts
Posted May 18, 2009
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Yes, I would say it would be polite to try to contact Doomsday192 first. If you can't, go ahead and make it. The idea is pretty trivial so he won't be getting any patent on it or whatever.

To answer the question of whether this makes a good puzzle, use your imagination. :wink:

@kizzycocoa:
If you mean one of the alternate cubes by Kayaia, he did say here that anyone can use them in map.
If it's from someone else, they usually mention in the post whether or not you can use it. (Otherwise: PM.)

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compherm
58 Posts
Posted May 18, 2009
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I don't believe he had a patent on the idea, so... go for it. What's he going to do? Come back and verbally berate you? I don't think he'll ever come back to the site, and I don't think he is working on Portal stuff any more. Sounds like fair game to me, and since he never actually followed through with the idea, there should be no issues.

Besides, I happened to play through one of his old maps recently (by chance), and I noticed/remembered that he blatantly ripped off a puzzle from someone (Hurricaaane, I believe). It was the timed stair-step fling thingy - anyone who played it knows what I'm talking about. Therefore, if he had a problem with it, he'd be a hypocrite. [/rant]

Edit: Damnit HMW, now the mention of a patent seems redundant...

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HMW
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Posted May 18, 2009
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Whoops... bad timing

I always keep the thread page open and refresh it just before submitting, for exactly this reason. It already saved my ass a few times... :biggrin:

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pestchamber
614 Posts
Posted May 19, 2009
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Ok i guess i'll start working :p
And do you seriously think i could even get him to answer after how i pissed him off? :razz:
Ok thanks guys i'll start mapping and release if i think it's worth it (Yep that's how i wanna do things now, i actually just made another map that i am not going to release :biggrin:)
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reaper
16 Posts
Posted May 21, 2009
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yeah. i would see no reason not to do it. but if you have stolen his work and codes or ripped it or somthing that would be a different story.
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jrlauer
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Posted May 21, 2009
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reaper wrote:
yeah. i would see no reason not to do it. but if you have stolen his work and codes or ripped it or somthing that would be a different story.

I agree, history is full of ideas that were used by someone else who got the credit. It's like a free market, whoever comes out with it first is the one who will be credited with it. It's only considered stealing if you take the code that he wrote and claim that you did it.

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