env_laser glitch

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Fracture
797 Posts
#87501
Posted Nov 06, 2012
I had placed several env_lasers in my map at the beginning, had them all tricked out and working perfectly, but when i had to move an entire room with the lasers, something weird happened. The endsprite that is created at the end of the laser is not directly in the same spot as the target... its actually several feet adjecant to it now. I don't know how that happened, but even after editing, replacing, and make a new map file with new lasers and everything, this issue keeps repeating itself
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ChickenMobile
2,460 Posts
#87503
Posted Nov 06, 2012
Replied 31 minutes later
This sounds really odd - even resetting the lasers does this you say?

I would try and look for any 'red' keyvalues which popped up in your entity and remove them.

alt+P (check for problems) is a good bet as well.

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Fracture
797 Posts
#87506
Posted Nov 06, 2012
Replied 1 hour later
yeah i made a new map and created a laser and target, and it worked fine, then i do the same in my full map and it keeps getting offset, it doesnt even dictate a problem
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ChickenMobile
2,460 Posts
#87507
Posted Nov 06, 2012
Replied 19 minutes later
What exactly is your target?
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Fracture
797 Posts
#87508
Posted Nov 06, 2012
Replied 2 minutes later
just an info_target
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ChickenMobile
2,460 Posts
#87509
Posted Nov 06, 2012
Replied 6 minutes later
Check that your target is not parented or have a duplicate name as another entity. Duplicate entities' names are bold and can be find by pressing the 'mark' button.
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Fracture
797 Posts
#87510
Posted Nov 06, 2012
Replied 21 minutes later
unparented and one of a kind :<
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ChickenMobile
2,460 Posts
#87511
Posted Nov 06, 2012
Replied 12 minutes later
No eye deer then.
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FelixGriffin
2,680 Posts
#87517
Posted Nov 06, 2012
Replied 3 hours later
Delete the endpoint, see if the laser still shows up?
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HalfPortalLife3
20 Posts
#87535
Posted Nov 06, 2012
Replied 13 hours later
What happens if you disable and re-enable the lasers when they get to where they're supposed to go?
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ChickenMobile
2,460 Posts
#87539
Posted Nov 06, 2012
Replied 2 hours later

HalfPortalLife3 wrote:
What happens if you disable and re-enable the lasers when they get to where they're supposed to go?

Get out Alex Bell!

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Fracture
797 Posts
#87545
Posted Nov 07, 2012
Replied 5 hours later
After much manipulation, I could not get it fixed. Thankfully I saved an older backup file for the map just for when things get this ugly. All I have to do is remove everything but the functional lasers from the old map, remove the glitched lasers from the newer map, and then paste room after room into the old map. Then once it is all aligned into correspondance to the laser, that I will NEVER touch again, I just save it as a new file.

EDIT: And yes, everything compiled perfectly like nothing ever happened.

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josepezdj
2,386 Posts
#87547
Posted Nov 07, 2012
Replied 38 minutes later

ChickenMobile wrote:
Get out Alex Bell!

Thank you! :thumbup: I always thought this one was Alex Bell too!

@Fracture: one question, why don't you use the env_beam entity instead? I read somwhere that the env_laser doesn't work properly into Portal2 but I can seem to remember where exactly or why exactly. I don't know what you are attempting to create but the env_beam is great, even if you need it to damage the player... For your problem, the only thing that comes to mind is to 'center origins', try just in cases...

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HalfPortalLife3
20 Posts
#87558
Posted Nov 07, 2012
Replied 2 hours later

josepezdj wrote:
ChickenMobile wrote:

Get out Alex Bell!

Thank you! :thumbup: I always thought this one was Alex Bell too!

I thought that was obvious, especially after this post.

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FelixGriffin
2,680 Posts
#87560
Posted Nov 07, 2012
Replied 55 minutes later
Other way around. Env_beam is broken, env_laser works.
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josepezdj
2,386 Posts
#87562
Posted Nov 07, 2012
Replied 13 minutes later
Really? I do work with the env_beam entity a lot and they DO work perfect... this time I didn't mix them Felix, really :wink:
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CamBen
973 Posts
#87570
Posted Nov 07, 2012
Replied 1 hour later
Try just making the laser, and not setting the end sprite. Then, manually put your own sprite in.
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HalfPortalLife3
20 Posts
#87572
Posted Nov 07, 2012
Replied 1 hour later
Sorry to keep coming back, but I just had a brain wave.

What if you put some different lasers somewhere, made them a template, and spawned the lasers where he lasers are supposed to go? Just forcespawn them and kill/disable your other lasers.

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Fracture
797 Posts
#87573
Posted Nov 07, 2012
Replied 28 minutes later
...I....already fixed the problem.....so...yeah

though I wish they would fix all these bugs and glitches in Hammer. I seriously wish i could preview all audio files without having to go to the wiki. And how about finding nodes without volumes? How does one even do that?

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FelixGriffin
2,680 Posts
#87583
Posted Nov 07, 2012
Replied 4 hours later
Really? I've never gotten an env_beam to work after the DLC2. Would you mind sharing your settings?
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