Currently, the workshop is flooded with maps that are a bit easy and not to much time has been put in them. (Otherwise known as maps that would get 1- ratings on this website). But, before PTI came out, maps were so much better, and now, most of them are not published on the workshop. I thought this would be important for a change in maps on the workshop.

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Yishbarr if you are worried about the authors of the maps not posting to the workshop, PM them and tell them why they should put their map on the workshop. It is literally 2 entities and an output to get potential 1000s more plays.

yishbarr wrote:
Currently, the workshop is flooded with maps that are a bit easy and not to much time has been put in them. (Otherwise known as maps that would get 1- ratings on this website). But, before PTI came out, maps were so much better, and now, most of them are not published on the workshop. I thought this would be important for a change in maps on the workshop.

I don't think that good maps are not being published in the workshop (do you know a good example btw?), but they are much harder to find. Overall because most of the top rated maps aren't good at all, so where will you start searching for the best maps?

A thread about this (difficult to find but good maps afterall) were created here.

josepezdj wrote:
I don't think that good maps are not being published in the workshop (do you know a good example btw?)

Patent Pending Infinifling and Edifice were all good maps from the first mapping contest that aren't on the workshop

Yeah, but even the maps that didn't have too much detailing were good maps. It's just amazing how PTI ruined it all.

yishbarr wrote:
Yeah, but even the maps that didn't have too much detailing were good maps. It's just amazing how PTI ruined it all.

Keep in mind that there was no workshop before PTI, so it's hard to say that PTI ruined it all.
And while I agree that there's a lot of bad maps on the workshop, there's also a lot of good ones that probably would've never come to existence if it weren't for PTI. And there's a lot of good mappers who wouldn't be as well known if it weren't for their PTI maps (see: Mevious). I personally think that the PTI was a good thing for mapping because it's led to some new people getting into mapping, as well as causing absolute gems of maps being made. That said, the Workshop would benefit from having some top-tier maps like Edifice and Patent Pending on it.

portal2tenacious wrote:
josepezdj wrote:

I don't think that good maps are not being published in the workshop (do you know a good example btw?)

Patent Pending Infinifling and Edifice were all good maps from the first mapping contest that aren't on the workshop

Yeah, awesome maps! But those were pre-PTI (thus pre-Workshop) maps... Maybe the authors simply didn't want to upload them to the workshop after it begun to exist. Talking of Omnicoder, Restrospective isn't in the workshop either... I was referring more to maps from the dlc2 onwards that haven't been published to the workshop`...

yishbarr wrote:
Yeah, but even the maps that didn't have too much detailing were good maps. It's just amazing how PTI ruined it all.

I agree with srs bsnss here. Even though there are tons of crappy maps, there are REAL JEWELS out there, awesome puzzle makers (although not mappers), that we all must thank the PTI their appearance.

That's true, but I was also talking about pre-PTI maps.

Sadly Retrospective doesn't work anymore, and couldn't work on the Workshop. It used the Addon system which VALVe ruined in DLC1. One would have to make a new DLC for it.

FelixGriffin wrote:
Sadly Retrospective doesn't work anymore, and couldn't work on the Workshop. It used the Addon system which VALVe ruined in DLC1. One would have to make a new DLC for it.

Retrospective does work... you can extract all content from the .VPK then pakrat it

But not the scripts. It uses a modified transition list and signage script IIRC, which will be overridden by the VPK.

Well, you do remember correctly... more or less... although I meant a "wokrshop version" The map can be adapted for the workshop without much problems.

What the map has got in, that could suppose some difficulty is (in increasing order of difficulty):

||- 1 hexed model, the combineball, which is an effect... this might suppose a problem, but it could be tried to change the model via scripts (and making the point_energy_ball_launcher to call the "BallChange()" function each time it launches a new ball)

• The custom video_splitter.nut that Omni modified to precache his video on startup (I have this test pending to do: use the PreCache function in a custom script pakrated into the .bsp to see if it works)

• A .bik media (windows xp boot video... for the elevators) well, this could be faked by animated textures... not needed many frames so...

• Closed-captions for the custom dialogues (.dat and .txt files)... I don't know if these could be pakrated (never did) but read this interesting thread and I think we can

• Some custom models and their materials; no problem with these to pakrat them... but there's a npc personality core that I don't know if it's hexed or not... it should be checked.

• Custom sounds (some "old" Glados lines, some other lines) easy to pakrat (Omnicoder already pakrated them into the sp_retropective.bsp)... but there are the sounds for the energy ball... Omni kept the stocked names though changed the sounds into them... this might suppose a problem, but maybe once embedded into the .bsp they will work well... also we could use a script to precache them...||
  Lol, I almost want to try it, just as an exercise!