PortalFan77 wrote:
Make your own, you just need to trick the game into thinking you have it running .

If you would be so kind as to run me through it via PM I'd be really grateful. I'm not into the whole cracking and bootlegging thing, I just write programs.

Five casual games, duct-taped together.

msleeper wrote:
Five casual games, duct-taped together.

Think what you want of it, A lot of people can look past "oh this and this is gay" and see the game as a whole, and it is truly awesome. Of course, EA skullfucked it so hard with the DRM/SecuRom it makes me feel dirty just having it installed.

If I could have those little bits removed, It's be 100% satisfied with my purchase. Even if that means going behind EA/Maxis's back to get a crack for it.

If they feel it's fair to sell me a $50 dollar rental game, then I feel it's fair to kick them in the jaw and 1)crack the game 2)get a pirated version 3)Return it to the store where I bought it under the fact that DRM/SecuRom are not even mentioned on the box and thus there is no way for me to actually KNOW of it, or 4) both 2 and 3.

Duff, it's people like you who've made Spore's Amazon rating one star.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20 ... d-drm.html

It's just amazing that they keep trying despite DRM being proven again and again not be ineffective.

What's it that they say about insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?

Hober wrote:
Duff, it's people like you who've made Spore's Amazon rating one star.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20 ... d-drm.html

It's just amazing that they keep trying despite DRM being proven again and again not be ineffective.

What's it that they say about insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?

I don't give two shits if it's effective or not, it's intrusive on a product I PURCHASED, not "rented for 3 installs", and it's complete bullshit. That, and SecuRom has a reputation for installing rootkits. I already found 2.

The game in itself is great, AWESOME, but shame on Maxis for letting the EA hate machine run the operation.

I'm with you on SecuROM being dumb, but a few points:

1) When you sound like you're foaming at the mouth (which is how the above post "sounds" to me) you're less likely to be taken seriously.

2) SecuROM isn't a rootkit.

Ars Technica wrote:
The fiasco stemmed ultimately from a misunderstanding of what Microsoft's RootkitRevealer is. In short, it is a diagnostic tool that offers avenues for further investigation. Microsoft puts it this way: RootkitRevealer "lists Registry and file system API discrepancies that may indicate the presence of a user-mode or kernel-mode rootkit" (emphasis added).

It does not scan a system and then say "Hey, you've got a rootkit!" Rather, it looks for a number of signs that indicate that a service or application is attempting to hide itself and manipulate the system, or one of several other potential signs of a problem.

I think the guys who are bombing the Amazon page are going right for the mean bean machine on this one. People raised hell over Bioshock and then everything quieted down when some concessions were made. But if there's ever a time to stand against this, I guess it's now.

Not that it really bothers me. If I ever get locked out of my copy of Bioshock, I'll just torrent it. And I don't see that changing any time soon.

Hober wrote:
Not that it really bothers me. If I ever get locked out of my copy of Bioshock, I'll just torrent it. And I don't see that changing any time soon.

That doesn't make it okay. In fact, that just makes it hilariously ironic. They alienate the consumer in an attempt to slow piracy when in turn the alienated consumer just goes and pirates the software.

Duffedwaffe wrote:
That doesn't make it okay. In fact, that just makes it hilariously ironic. They alienate the consumer in an attempt to slow piracy when in turn the alienated consumer just goes and pirates the software.

QTF

Darn, I already gone ahead and installed the game on the three computers (1 mac and 2 pc's) in our house. I guess I have to search for Spore's receipt in case one of the computers crashes...

I hate EA, now more than ever. And I hate they publish so many great games, all made by second- and third-parties, but screwing them up with their profit-menace. They are a company like all others, extremely paranoid but doing shit to prevent piracy.

I really feel sorry for Spore, since it's still a great game, even though a slight letdown. Now the casual gamers, who are not aware of all the controverse and for who the game was ment, will be spoiled by all the hardcore gamers who don't like the game and the DRM and screw up the game's public ratings.

Oh well. Doesn't this happen to a lot of games, especially the ones EA publishes? And, like mentioned before, doesn't it cool down after a short while when everyone finds out it's not all as bad as the hype suggested? I guess hardcore gamers just like to complain about new games, about casual games and about EA Games. And I'm one of them, that's why I'm complaining here.

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Ric, I sort of agree. Bioshock was very much thunder and lightning until they released a few measures to placate the fan base and the controversy sort of died.

But it seems the only way to make these guys pay attention is to hit them in the wallet, which is exactly what the Amazon bombing will do. And, strictly speaking, I have no problem with it as long as every reviewer purchased the game.

But when you start getting random internet assholes stuffing the review thread the same way the Paulians kept stuffing online polls for Their Man Ron, the intellectual dishonesty there begins to bother me.

SPore is a great game, the only issue is EA, which is why I only play in offline mode cause they suck so much with their DRM bullcock.

I want to play Spore and see if it's good or not...I currently have the creature creator, which is kinda fun.

The other editors are just as much fun, also the vehicle- and building-editors are more freeform, as you are more free in adding objects. Vehicles work around a central axis( like the creatures), with all objects not placed on that axis mirrored on the other side, but you can freely add body blocks around that axis, instead of having to use a 'claymold spine' like the creatures. Buildings however don't have a 'central' axis, instead they use sticky placing along certain axises, though you don't have to use those. That allows for unsymmetrical structures, which leaves you with more freedom. But it is harder to create symmetrical structures. Creating buildings is much like playing with wooden blocks, and it's fun. Though I have been playing around with the spaceship editor mainly.

Really, the editors and the space phase are essentially the core of the game. I wish they had put as much depth to the other aspects of the game... well, they're probably gonna add that in 10 expansion sets...

The outcry over the Spore DRM has caused EA to back off of RA3's DRM.

Except they're doin' it wrong.

They removed the requirement to have the game disk in the drive and raised the number of installs from 3 to 5.

We've been dealing with CDs in disk drives for years; it's annoying but it's never caused a boycott of a game. The limited total installs is the part that people are wigging about, and EA is essentially doing nothing about that.

Good thing I wasn't planning on buying RA3, even despite being quite partial to RA2. Fuck 'em for making it an over-sexed permanent rental.

Hober wrote:
The outcry over the Spore DRM has caused EA to back off of RA3's DRM.

Except they're doin' it wrong.

They removed the requirement to have the game disk in the drive and raised the number of installs from 3 to 5.

We've been dealing with CDs in disk drives for years; it's annoying but it's never caused a boycott of a game. The limited total installs is the part that people are wigging about, and EA is essentially doing nothing about that.

Good thing I wasn't planning on buying RA3, even despite being quite partial to RA2. Fuck 'em for making it an over-sexed permanent rental.

That makes piracy easier LOLOLOLOLOL, that means you more mounting of ISOs. Pirates are gonna have a field day...

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They removed the requirement to have the game disk in the drive and raised the number of installs from 3 to 5.

That is to stop the legal way of hurting a company. Giving all your friends your copy of the game so they don't have to.

Not really sure it is 100% legal if you give them the copy you got from the store.

Reep, if I'm interpreting what you're saying correctly, you're saying it's legal to create copies of the game and give them away?

Hober wrote:
Reep, if I'm interpreting what you're saying correctly, you're saying it's legal to create copies of the game and give them away?

No. That's Illegal.

I'm saying give the exact copy that you bought and giving it off. . .

Again not saying that it is legal or not I have no clue. And I never done it.

HEY NOW YOU PIRATES, WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xfqkdh5Js4

PortalFan77 wrote:
HEY NOW YOU PIRATES, WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xfqkdh5Js4

I lol'd