[Coop] Upstairs Downstairs
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TODO:
* Rethink the laser puzzle - optional extra??
REVISION 4:
* Added PTI entities for workshop compatibility. Map is now hosted on the Workshop.
* Added indicators for the exit button in Chamber 2.
* Added some more detail (pipes) and attempted to tidy up visleafs.
REVISION 3:
* Fixed several 'hardcore' exploits, found by BlumCoLe and PortalCombat.
REVISION 2:
* A few minor aesthetic fixes
* Fixed the reflecto-cube resupply button
REVISION 1:
General fixes and detailing, including:
* Fixed the airlock doors not opening (trouble with instance proxies there - my apologies again!).
* Moved the reflecto-cube dispenser to a different location and re-themed it to be consistent with the underground style.
* Added detailing throughout the map.
* Prevented several unintended solutions (hopefully everything is accounted for now).
As always, feedback is very welcome.
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with the reflectocube
For some reason we also weren't able to open the door after the first checkpoint. this whole checkpoint didn't work. We did solve room 1 and 3 in a way we think is at least somewhat the intended way.
I liked the theme, the map looked good but there has to be some work done before releasing it as a final release. I hope Djin can upload our unintended run soon and also our blind playthrough a bit later.
The room with the reflectocube felt a bit hidden and I don't think that modern style fits. Though I have no idea how you can make this look natural
how we skipped puzzle 1-3
player 1 goes down, places a portal on the wall and one near the exit. Walk to the exit, press the button, go back, let player 2 grab the cube, get the cube down as done in puzzle one, then aim the laser through the portal already placed, get both players to the exit and then place the laser so it activates the exit.
For now I'd say it's a 3/5, good but needs work. If you fix the issues I mentioned before and do a bit more decoration I'm sure this map has potential to be a 5/5 map. Keep up the good work 
. I know what a pain a very open level can be
Regarding the reflecto-cube: there are actually two (one hidden in the second chamber in the same manner). Rather than hiding them, would it be preferable to have them supplied as you press the button? (Perhaps via the dissasembler).
You definately had to cooperate - which is what it is all about. Thanks for making - keep it up! We need all the coop maps we can get!
Here is our blindrun:
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(Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUFPqLPZeuk)
Also note the second run we did, starting at ~31:55 minutes
1. The way you got the cube onto the button wasn't intended, but is perfectly valid! (I suppose that means there's multiple solutions). A shame that the airlock door didn't open - I can only apologise
2. It seems I need to make doubly sure that you can't portal improperly between puzzles. Frustratingly, being that's part of the laser puzzle
3. It seems switches number 2 gave you plenty to think about. Again, it wasn't my intended solution but the two of you certainly seemed to be thinking (together) with portals, which is always good to see!
4. That portalable surface in the first chamber is a liability. I'll have to remove it, that completely destroys the final puzzle.
Thanks to the two of you for testing - you've certainly given me plenty to think about!
If you get the chance to test the map again I'd be grateful!
I'd consider this version ready for 'full' release - what's the best way to do that? (Reupload?)
BEARD! wrote:
I'd consider this version ready for 'full' release - what's the best way to do that? (Reupload?)
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Generally the best way is to send me cake. PM for delivery address
5/5
I love Portal and want to collect some gameplays (first blind runs; always aren't the fastest and intended solutions, because I take any time to look at the map and its possibilities), speedruns and bug reports.
My records should help you to understand how the player thinks.
Well, I hope I can support you with my uploads to fix any bugs and make new awesome maps.
Here are yours!
Gameplay:*
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If you like it and/or it helps: THUMBS UP*
opinion & comments:
We play your map yesterday and have a lot of fun. We tested some ways to solve the last puzzle and found 2 alternative and freaky solutions! 
(I don't know why it took us so long to find the intended way xD)
btw: the on-top-tricks aren't helpfully 
THX for mapping... 5/5
Keep it up!
I didn't see an intended solution for the last puzzle - but you had the right ideas: Moving the laser into chamber two, and beaming it into the portalable surface. I intended players to send the laser through the Emancipation Grid and through the hole in chamber two's wall - that might have been easier. I'll leave you to have a think about it!
Your recording also highlighted a few problems for me to fix. First, I think it's possible to bypass the chamber 1 without solving it.. Second, You managed to jumped onto an airlock. I'll try to put a new revision of the map online this weekend.
Thanks again for playing and recording!
I'm so fuckin glad that you like it and helps you.
Before you start to fix the bugs ...watch the next video/s (later comes more).
PortalCombat wasn't at home and it was boring. I try some things alone on your map and find interessing bugs.
You can skip the whole chamber 2 with the trick you see in Part 2 of my video (about 50 seconds)
*Glitchviewing:*
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Please don't hate me! 
If you allow I record and upload the whole "how to find bugs and glitches by try-and-fail" in the next days?!? ^^
BlumCoLe wrote:
Thanks for watching!I'm so fuckin glad that you like it and helps you.
Before you start to fix the bugs ...watch the next video/s (later comes more).
PortalCombat wasn't at home and it was boring. I try some things alone on your map and find interessing bugs.
You can skip the whole chamber 2 with the trick you see in Part 2 of my video (about 50 seconds)*Glitchviewing:*
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Please don't hate me!If you allow I record and upload the whole "how to find bugs and glitches by try-and-fail" in the next days?!? ^^
Open levels are so incredibly hard to get properly without these kinds of exploits 
Prevent the jump on the rails and almost all problems are solved!
It's just for fun, cool boy!
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If you allow I record and upload the whole "how to find bugs and glitches by try-and-fail" in the next days?!? ^^
That's fine by me - from my point of view it can only improve the map.
I don't want to say these are "problems"!
Bugfind and -using are just for fun and not for diss the mapper. I know it's hard to map...
You, Beard!, and all mappers have my totally respect for your work ...I cannot do this!
Because of my incompetence, (If you want) I want to help that you can make your map perfect.
In your case, the map has just one (until now) real bug which isn't a glitch or exploit. Not shown in the video!
When I play, I see which is the normal (maybe intended) way and which is not, but it's my hobby to test games for bugs ...I want to know: WHAT'S POSSIBLE?! Please don't let us philosophize about the sense.
All what I want is:
* Tolerate my hobby and origin (I think many members have a problem with it ...german voices ingame blablabla).
* If you want watch my gameplays, speedrun, glitchviews, etc., if not ...don't do it and be quiet!
* Use my suggestions to fix the bugs or ignore it, because these are senseless and not possible in the normal way (= without glitchusing).
-> Don't hate me!
I hope the discussion is finally over!
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I don't know why you started fighting about random things.
And again ...I bear the blame as always. What else!
btw: Whats the task of a Community Contributor?! ^^
BlumCoLe wrote:
Mods vs. noobmember ...Fight! -_- (pls not!)
You couldn't win that fight But so far there was no mod involved here.
And now kiss and make friends, everyone! You can fight in PMs if you hate each other. Alternatively visit each other and make a YouTube video of your "meeting" for the OffTopic section, but don't flame each other in here
I'll feel free to delete ongoing fights within this topic. Actually everyone here had a point and I don't know why you started fighting about random things.